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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could not see on the website how to buy
an edgebox.  Does Dell sell them?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>runningprince<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 05, 2006
8:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'; ron@wellsted.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [asterisk-biz] How
Realistic is Hosted VoIP for SMBs?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EDGEBOX (<a href="http://www.edgebox.net/">www.edgebox.net</a>)
and ITEMS remote resource management software does it all; place the EDGEBOX at
the customer premises and managed thousands of them with ITEMs software from a ISP
center; please take a look at the documents and case studies here: <a
href="http://www.edgebox.net/opencms/opencms/resources.html">http://www.edgebox.net/opencms/opencms/resources.html</a>.
Please let me know if you want more info about it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dean Collins<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 03 Kasım 2006 Cuma 20:01<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion; ron@wellsted.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [asterisk-biz] How
Realistic is Hosted VoIP for SMBs?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You might also want to check out <a
href="http://www.exinda.com/">www.exinda.com</a> does the same thing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers,</span></font><font color=navy><span
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dean</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brett<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 3 November 2006
12:21 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ron@wellsted.org.uk;
Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] How
Realistic is Hosted VoIP for SMBs?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>You guys need to look
into the Ranch Networks solution.&nbsp; With a Hosted PBX, you can put the
Asterisk box at you location.&nbsp; Then we take a Ranch Networks box and put
it at the customers site.&nbsp; the Ranch Networks box does all the NAT
traversal, qos, firewall, etc. plus it will bring the media locally so you
don't have to go over the internet for simple branch to branch calls.&nbsp;
Plus, the ranch Networks box provides high availability or clustering if you
need that. <br>
<br>
There ya go, one box fixes all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 10/30/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ron
Wellsted</span></b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ron@wellsted.org.uk">ron@wellsted.org.uk</a>&gt;
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>

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shadowym wrote:<br>
&gt; If you don't have full control of the network from end to end (or have <br>
&gt; someone do that for you), it will never be a reliable solution in my
humble<br>
&gt; opinion.&nbsp;&nbsp;People are getting away with it in some cases but the
bottom line<br>
&gt; is they cannot guarantee quality of service. <br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
I must agree with this having seen a 5 phone office with a hosted system<br>
over ADSL.&nbsp;&nbsp;The system was never reliable and they eventually
scrapped<br>
it and came to us.&nbsp;&nbsp;As we are in the same building, I setup their
phones <br>
on to asterisk with their own contexts, etc. and replaced their simple<br>
switch with a Linksys 224P (poe + layer3 managed).&nbsp;&nbsp;Inbound calls are<br>
presented on a ISDN BRI (ZapHFC), outbound via VoIP.&nbsp;&nbsp;The only
comment <br>
has been about the occasional slight echo.<br>
<br>
- --<br>
Ron Wellsted<br>
<a href="mailto:ron@wellsted.org.uk">ron@wellsted.org.uk</a> <a
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