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<pre wrap="">Farzal
I don't want to buy anything from you I just want to talk to your tech support for about 2 hours we will talk about the PBX system you sell and you pay them.
Then I will talk to your sales team and see if I can buy a system for under $500 with a year free tech support.
Let me know if you have a system like this I will take 25 units
it needs to do 5 to 50 users.
If you need to please call me at the numbers listed below. We use trixbox system.
By the way do you know what TrixBox stands for?
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best regards,
Al Bochter
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Farzal Dojki wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Dear Kristian, please save your insults for some other forum. I had only
asked for software license + support (if possible). And my 2nd entry was an
open question hoping for honest answer.
That's to Mr. Mitul Limbani response, I have an idea what's going on in the
market from 'business' perspective. It seems the base system is able to
support that number of users. Many companies just have their business models
built around the # users that will use the system.
But plenty of vendors exist out there whose SMB software will cost below
$1000, which I guess would be our new price ceiling instead of $500.
And we will of course continue to play with core asterisk and one day hope
to go 100% free. We, in fact, are a PBX reseller.
Thanks everyone,
Farzal
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of Kristian
Kielhofner
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:30 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] out of the box PBX
Farzal Dojki wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Not sure why so much hostility over this question. 50 users or 5, the
underlying system is free, open source PBX called Asterisk. So it's not an
issue of scalability. IF you have a user friendly enough interface, then
creating 5 or 50 users is the same thing.
And really, other than free trixbox, there are many systems for under
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<pre wrap="">in the market that are already going that. Switchvox, fonality, freepbx,
Intuitive, etc.
So, please, I hope to get some good answer. Why does it matter to you, if
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<pre wrap="">use your software to create 5 users, or 50 users? Why is trixbox free? Why
is fonality and many others selling software+hardware at $1000?
Farzal
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Farzal,
        I wouldn't go so far as so say there is "hostility". But...
        Your price range does seem to be far below what most people are
charging for the level of functionality that you require. Yes, Asterisk
is free. However, the whole industry that has sprung up around Asterisk
has created tools to enhance the overall Asterisk experience, and some
of these tools are quite good. These tools combined with Asterisk
provide a level of functionality (and more) that 10 years ago would have
cost > $30,000. Now you can get it for $5000.
        If you want something cheap or free, use Asterisk (like the rest of
us)
and spend your own time adding the features you require (web interface,
operator panel, etc). Nobody is stopping you from doing that!
        The product you are looking for can't practically exist. The
interface
cards alone (tdm04b x2 = ~$700). At the price you are looking for, the
supplier would be taking a loss just on the cards! What about the
interface, machine to run it on, not to mention support! Unless UNICEF
has gone into the PBX business, this isn't going to happen...
        If you can find anyone to provide the product you are looking for
(for
that price), start looking for an alternate means of support ASAP.
There is no way they will be able to stay in business for very long.
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