<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I don't mean to barge in into everyone's comments. I agree with supporting open source and would also encourage Patrick to consider it.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>However, and I haven't seen Patrick's comments to this thread, he said they developed it as a school project. This means they may not be interested in supporting it. They may not even be interested in working with Asterisk again. This was a school project. They probably just want to sell it and forget about it. Let someone else evolve it, maintain it, release it under GPL, or whatever the buyer wants.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Just food for thought</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- Daniel</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On May 24, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Jim Houser wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> Didn't mean to offend, sorry. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> Also not looking for something for nothing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> Just offering some other thought as selling the project whole under the basis of re-branding within the call center environment puts it in front of a small base of interested parties.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> I work for a financial company and if Asterisk was presented to me originally as product for pay my CFO would tell me to jump in a lake before allowing me to invest into a no name product. However as open source I installed it and integrated it into our existing Avaya IP platform. My CFO loves it and has given me the green light to buy server hardware, telephony cards, phones, etc since he sees the benefit. Recently Avaya presented their SIP server to us and the answer was "sorry we already have Asterisk". We are also budgeting for Digium support. The open source release with paid support clearly works in a corporate environment.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> In reality "buy me because I built it and it has features" doesn't hold much value when you are a no name with no track record. I was just saying given a choice I would expect the on going financial rewards supporting open source would out weigh a one time low ball purchase.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> Once again, sorry if I offended.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="125335117-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael Workman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [asterisk-biz] Selling the source code for asteriskcallcentersolution<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">You ask EVERYONE to make all there work and effort Open Source cause you don't want to pay.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">But if we follow the Rules according to GPL... then Why the Hell is had not Digium made the g729 and g723.1 Codec's open source...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">it was written on code from asterisk... for it Should be open source according to GPL... So in Short.... I don't think people should demand that people make there software open source UNTIL Digium Makes G729 and G723 Open source...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">Until they do... Asterisk's GPL Has not Got a Pot to piss in...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="921113717-24052006"><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT><BR> <DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"> <HR tabindex="-1"> <FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim Houser<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [asterisk-biz] Selling the source code for asterisk callcentersolution<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> I agree.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> In the spirit the open source your project could not have gotten off the ground without the efforts it took build Asterisk. Take your hard work, release it under GPL, and you will benefit from those who look to implement it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> Or, go the route you are asking and it may rot since the marketplace of someone buying it just to remarket it will be small. At best you're going to get low ball offers that will insult your hard work efforts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> Also, read the trades, open source is exploding in both small and large corporations. Your potential market for support would provide a return much larger than a one time sale...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Good luck with your project.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN class="158402217-24052006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"> <HR tabindex="-1"> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ignacio Ramos<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:26 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [asterisk-biz] Selling the source code for asterisk call centersolution<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Patrick:<BR><BR>Leave it for the open source, under the GPL, just like Asterisk, and sell your services installing it, improving it, all over the world<BR><BR>That is an option.<BR><BR>cheers<BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 5/24/06, <B class="gmail_sendername">Erick Perez</B> <<A href="mailto:eaperezh@gmail.com">eaperezh@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Hi patrick, please contact me at:<BR>eaperezh (at) gmail (dot) com<BR>and since im overseas please provide me with your phone number to call you.<BR>Any screenshots and documentation?<BR><BR><BR>On 5/24/06, Patrick kemac < <A href="mailto:patrick.kemac@yahoo.fr">patrick.kemac@yahoo.fr</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>> Hello<BR>> We have developed CRM for call center based on asterisk (Inbound and<BR>> Outbound) as school project. <BR>> We would like to sell the application (source code and documentation for<BR>> anyone who is interested in<BR>> commercializing the CRM.<BR>> Please contact me for details<BR>> Features implemented<BR>> · Outbound dialing and intelligent inbound call routing<BR>> · Digital quality live monitoring and recording<BR>> · Web-based real-time remote monitoring and management<BR>> · Network and multi-site management and view from a single location <BR>> · Seamless compatibility with non-IP legacy systems<BR>> · Secure and user-friendly graphical user interface (GUI)<BR>> · Scalable – unlimited number of agents<BR>><BR>> Waiting for replies<BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by <A href="http://Easynews.com">Easynews.com</A> --<BR>><BR>> asterisk-biz mailing list<BR>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<BR>> <A href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>--<BR><BR>-------------------------------------------<BR>Erick Perez<BR>Linux User 376588<BR><A href="http://counter.li.org/">http://counter.li.org/ </A> (Get counted!!!)<BR>Panama, Republic of Panama<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by <A href="http://Easynews.com">Easynews.com</A> --<BR><BR>asterisk-biz mailing list <BR>To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<BR> <A href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR> <DIV>This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. 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