That's a good question. When I am talking about a Tier-1 I am assuming that company that provides VoIP termination can accept a VoIP call and terminate it directly to a Tier-1 TDM carrier like Level3.<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 2/1/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rusty Dekema</b> <<a href="mailto:rdekema@gmail.com">rdekema@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Please excuse my unfamiliarity with the industry, but what constitutes<br>a "Tier 1" VoIP carrier? Are we talking RBOCs/CLECs only? Would (for<br>example) Level3 count?<br><br>Does the carrier have to terminate the calls via TDM directly from the
<br>customer-facing VoIP server? Can the carrier pass the calls over their<br>own IP network to a different server before putting the call on a TDM<br>circuit? (And etc...)<br><br>I certainly understand the difference between a "good" and "crappy"
<br>VoIP outfit; I am just curious as to what exactly is required for a<br>company to be considered a "Tier 1" VoIP carrier.<br><br>-Rusty<br><br><br><br><br><br>On 2/1/06, Script Head <<a href="mailto:scripthead@gmail.com">
scripthead@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I am in a process of doing exactly that. In fact, last weeks experiences<br>> have driven me to talk directy to Tier-1 carriers.<br>><br>> The sad part is, even at the point where I was pushing less than 1/2 million
<br>> minutes per month, many carriers couldn't handle the traffic. It was always<br>> something: lack of avaiable bandwith, crashing servers or codecs,<br>> downtime... It seem that the majority of "carriers" aren't even prepared to
<br>> handle traffic like that.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> On 2/1/06, Alex Pui <<a href="mailto:alex.pui@act-labs.com">alex.pui@act-labs.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >
<br>> > Script Head,<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I am not a "carrier", but I think the question would be, if you are buying<br>> more volume than most of the "carrier" here, why would you deal with them?
<br>> Just trying to insult them that they are not "quality"provider. I think you<br>> should deal with tier 1 carrier by yourself.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Or do I miss anything?
<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Alex<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ________________________________<br>><br>> ><br>> > From: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of<br>> Script Head<br>> > Sent: February 1, 2006 10:30 AM
<br>> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>> > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truth<br>> orlive up to expectations.<br>> ><br>> >
<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > If you're in the business of providing termination services (some at<br>> incredibly low prices), please read this.<br>> ><br>> > I have dealt with many so called carriers over the last couple of months,
<br>> almost all of them are present on this list. I am always clear about my<br>> calling patterns and expected volume. Everyone wants the minutes and always<br>> say "oh we can take all you can send" and always lie about or underestimate
<br>> your capacity. When I send 50 or more channels, you choke. Some have choked<br>> at 20 channels, some even less. You might have enough channels committed<br>> form your "upstream provider" but you don't have enough bandwidth to accept
<br>> the calls and send them to your upstream. I am almost sure that the majority<br>> didn't do any scalability testing.<br>> ><br>> > The points are:<br>> ><br>> > 1. If you're a reseller of a reseller with a 10+ domestic "carriers"
<br>> loaded in your LCR, you are not a quality provider.<br>> > 2. If you do have Tier-1 upstreams, you shouldn't have a problem revealing<br>> that information. If you have a problem doing that, you're using
<br>> bottom-of-the-barrel carriers.<br>> > 3. If your entire infrastructure consits on a leased box on Cogent<br>> bandwith "burstable to 100 mbit", you're not a qualitity provider. Nobody in<br>> their right mind will let you burst from 1 mbit to 100 for $59.95 per month.
<br>> > 4. When someone asks you for a commitment of N number of channels, you<br>> better damn have them or say straight out you can't do it.<br>> ><br>> > I think it should be also a normal practice to make iptraf avaiable to a
<br>> potential customer so he can test the amount of bandwidth (and burst) you<br>> have available.<br>> ><br>> > ScriptHead<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by
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