[asterisk-biz] UK Mobile Needed

Abdul Hakeem alhakeem at gmail.com
Thu Apr 29 07:33:26 CDT 2010


To everyone whose business has been hurt or impaired by the practices of the
big 5 operators in the UK, perhaps you could all sign a petition by
following the link below, or attached email:
OFCOM is now in consultation to reduce the termination charges to 0.5p.
Cheers,
AH


http://e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.id=732&ea.camp
aign.id=6428&ea.param.extras=ttrpetitioner:TTRemail

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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Kennedy
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 7:18 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] UK Mobile Needed

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 06:46:03PM +0100, David Knell wrote:

[snip]
> >> > That's called tromboning and to get sensible rates means you're 
> >> > probably
> >> > breaking the law.
> >> No, you're not.
> > You are if you change CLI so you're not coming form a UK number, but the
> > call is originated out of the UK.
> Which law?  And what if I just obliterated the CLI all together?

That's not allowed either. It's definately an ITU regulation, which I
believe all major telco's adhere too.

I also believe there are national laws ie in the UK the Communications
Act which anyone offering communications services has to adhere to.

[snip]
> Interconnect rates for certain numbers differ(ed) substantially depending
> on whether calls were originated internationally or not - k-rate numbers 
> carry
> roughly double the interconnect rate for domestically originated calls as 
> for
> international ones, and the same may well have been true for mobile calls.
> Now, though, international and domestically originated calls to mobiles 
> carry
> pretty much the same interconnect rate, so there's no benefit to be gained

> by
> tromboning them through a country overseas.

I don't dispute that it's no longer efficient to trombone mobile calls.
I still think changing or removing CLI so a telco doesn't know you're
coming from the UK is wrong (and as stated I think contravenes one of
the Comms Act obligations).

Steve

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