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lways on time what he promises.
Ovetel keep up a good work!
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Hello Guys,
Here we go again telling the truth =0A about OVETEL.!
http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html
Sr. =0A Yaro, claims to have lot of international agreements wit=
h 400 =0A partners ; i contacted
some of those "partners", like TATA and =0A SwissCom who i have =
business relationship and they don't have any =0A kind agreement=
with ovetel. Ovetel is not customer from =0A them!!.
Yaro, if you buy minutes from carriers who are =0A connected wit=
h them ; don't give you rights to exposure those telcos =0A whic=
h you don't have agreements! Don't be a fool.
You=B4re =0A trying to create fake ovetel 'reputation'. But i am=
100% sure all =0A guys from asterisk-biz have experience and kn=
ow exacly what you are. =0A Work from home
with fake e-mails ( creating fake employees ) to =0A say - ovete=
l have at least 5 people
working!
Come on Yaro, =0A say the truth to everybody :) It=B4s better to=
be a small and honest =0A voip broker. working from home is not=
so bad, right?
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Finally , someone to open the eyes!<br><br><b=
r>--- On <b>Mon, 9/20/10, C F <i><shmaltz at gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left=
: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: C F <shmaltz at gmail.com><br>Subje=
ct: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners )<br>To: "C=
ommercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists=
.digium.com><br>Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 2:10 PM<br><br><div id=
=3D"yiv1661680802">All arguments aside I believe the claim that t=
hey process 2 billion minutes (<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html">http://www.ovetel.com/partners.htm=
l</a>) is a lie. here is why:<div>There are 525600 minutes in a year (=
60*24*365), which makes 2,000,000,000 minutes over 3805 years (2000000000/5=
25600).</div>=0A<div>Lets take 300,000,000 americans, every american would =
have to use close to 7 minutes (6.666 to be exact, 2000000000/300000000) wi=
th Ovetel for them to have that volume or <br>3 million would have to =
use 666 minutes, or 300000 would have to use 6666 minutes, or 30000 would h=
ave to use 66666 minutes or 3000 would have to use 666666 minutes (close to=
a million). Ovetel guys do you have 3000 customers with over 100k minutes?=
or 100k customers with over 3k minutes? I doubt it.</div>=0A<div><br><div =
class=3D"yiv1661680802gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Michae=
l Schwartzman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:c=
arrierroutes at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dcarrierr=
outes at gmail.com">carrierroutes at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"yiv1661680802gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">=0AHere is my=
2 cents this guys who claim to be a Vlad does not look like to be a voip c=
onsultant from Dubai, based on headers of emails here what information was =
obtained:<br><br><span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0,=
0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-=
spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: non=
e; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style=
=3D"border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13=
px;"><font size=3D"4"><b style=3D"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Received: from Ta=
rikPC (<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://76-253-3-118.li=
ghtspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net/" style=3D"color: rgb(42, 93, 176);">76-253-3=
-118.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net</a><span> </span>[76.253.3.118]);=
</b></font><br>=0A=0A<br>So look like this "Vlad" is based in Sunnyvale Cal=
ifornia. I think it has to be one of Ovetel competitors who has problems co=
mpeting with them. <br><br>Based on a simple google search: <a rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.google.com/search?q=3DTarik+Sunny=
vale+California&ie=3Dutf-8&oe=3Dutf-8&aq=3Dt&rls=3Dorg.mozi=
lla:en-US:official&client=3Dfirefox-a#sclient=3Dpsy&hl=3Den&cli=
ent=3Dfirefox-a&hs=3DOaO&rls=3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=
=3DTarik+Voip+Sunnyvale+CA&aq=3Df&aqi=3D&aql=3D&oq=3D&g=
s_rfai=3D&pbx=3D1&fp=3D7b3e9e0669ddb0a1">http://www.google.com/sear=
ch?q=3DTarik+Sunnyvale+California&ie=3Dutf-8&oe=3Dutf-8&aq=3Dt&=
amp;rls=3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official&client=3Dfirefox-a#sclient=3Dpsy&a=
mp;hl=3Den&client=3Dfirefox-a&hs=3DOaO&rls=3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-U=
S%3Aofficial&q=3DTarik+Voip+Sunnyvale+CA&aq=3Df&aqi=3D&aql=
=3D&oq=3D&gs_rfai=3D&pbx=3D1&fp=3D7b3e9e0669ddb0a1</a><br>=
=0A=0A<br>Here what information was obtained:<br><br>Tarik Lakabi<br><br>Sp=
eaks:: English, Arabic, French<br><br>Region:: Middle East, Asia, Africa, E=
gypt, Libya, South America, Europe<br><br>Yahoo Messenger: tariktalk2globe<=
br>=0A=0AEmail: <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:tarik at talk2globe.com"=
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dtarik at talk2globe.com">tarik at tal=
k2globe.com</a><br><br>Source: <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://www.tmxvoip.net/contact-us.html">http://www.tmxvoip.net/contact-=
us.html</a><br><br>So now we know who is Vlad :). I hope Ovetel lawyers wil=
l take some action with a good reaction. <br>=0A=0A</span></span><div><div>=
</div><div class=3D"yiv1661680802h5"><br><div class=3D"yiv1661680802gmail_q=
uote">On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Outback Dingo <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:outbackdingo at gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doutbackdingo at gmail.com">outbackdingo at gmail.c=
om</a>></span> wrote:<br>=0A<blockquote class=3D"yiv1661680802gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,=
204); padding-left: 1ex;">=0A<div>Vlad</div><div><br></div>I doubt you eve=
n have the right to expect such, after acting like a child in a public foru=
m<div>highly unprofessional even under the circumstances, also kinda slande=
rous if you ask me.</div>=0A<div>=0A=0AMaybe you should prove you have a bu=
siness relationship with them also as you so claim.</div><div>Honestly, my =
preference would be that you just shut up and go away though. Its kinda sad=
</div><div>actually to see a grown man, if you are, act with such behaviors=
in a public forum. Its practically</div>=0A=0A=0A<div>embarrassing to watc=
h you behave in such a manner. I know 5 year olds who have more character</=
div><div>then you have displayed.</div><div><div></div><div><div><br><br></=
div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"yiv1661680802gmail_quote">=0A=0AO=
n Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Vlad Shoz <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"=
nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:vladshoz at yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/=
mc/compose?to=3Dvladshoz at yahoo.com">vladshoz at yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote=
:<br>=0A<blockquote class=3D"yiv1661680802gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt=
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1e=
x;"><table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td =
style=3D"font: inherit;" valign=3D"top">=0A=0AHello,<br><br>Josef, FYI.:<br=
>=0A<br>1st - This is a BIZ list. Any business related to VOIP/Asterisk or<=
br>termination can be discusses here. <br><br>2nd - If you don't want parti=
cipate from this thread or don't agree<br>- don't post comments. be quiet!<=
br>=0A=0A=0A<br>3rd - I am waiting Ovetel comment or proofs showing agreeme=
nt with Swisscom<br>and Tata as they claimed to have. Easy to solve this. D=
on't you think?<br><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 9/21/10, Josef Grand <i><<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:josef.grand2 at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djosef.grand2 at gmail.com">josef.grand2 at gmail.com</a>=
></i></b> wrote:<br>=0A=0A=0A<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid=
rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Josef Gr=
and <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:josef.grand2 at gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djosef.grand2 at gmail.com">josef.grand2@=
gmail.com</a>><div><br>=0ASubject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - her=
e we go !!! ( Partners )<br></div>To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Ast=
erisk Discussion" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:asterisk-biz at li=
sts.digium.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dasterisk-biz at lis=
ts.digium.com">asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com</a>><br>=0A=0A=0ADate: Tues=
day, September 21, 2010,=0A 4:39 AM<div><div></div><div><br><br><div>=0A=0A=
=0A =0A=0A<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">thank you muhamad for your =
reply</font></div>=0A<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">good answer</font=
></div>=0A<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font><font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"></font> </div>=0A<div>Meftah Tayeb<br>TMVoip Inc<br><a rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.awesomevoip.org">http://=
www.awesomevoip.org</a><br>+33178768323</div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"paddin=
g-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid r=
gb(0, 0, 0); margin-right: 0px;">=0A <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;">----=
- Original Message ----- </div>=0A <div style=3D"background: none repeat s=
croll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b> =0A <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" title=3D"shomail at crystalconsulting.pk" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3Dshomail@crystalconsulting.pk">Muhammad Shomail H=
aider</a> </div>=0A <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"=
nofollow" title=3D"asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"http://mc/compose?to=3Dasterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">Commercial and Busin=
ess-Oriented =0A Asterisk Discussion</a> </div>=0A <div style=3D"font: 10=
pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 20, 2010 9:32 =0A AM</div>=0A <=
div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel A=
gain =0A - here we go !!! ( Partners )</div>=0A <div><br></div>Please lea=
ve this topic aside now.Vlad, you have informed =0A everyone what you feel=
once, now it's up to them if they want to do business =0A with ovetel or =
not you don't have to keep on irritating everyone bigging of =0A every wee=
k. And please keep the professional attitude here so this list =0A ca=
n stay clean and doesn't become garbage like most of the other lists.=0A <=
div><br></div>=0A <div>Regards,</div>=0A <div><br></div>=0A <div>Shomail=
<br><br>=0A <div>On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gray Routes <span=
dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://mc/co=
mpose?to=3Dgrayroutes at gmail.com">grayroutes at gmail.com</a>></span> =0A w=
rote:<br>=0A <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);">Vlad =0A (if it is you=
r real name) why you hate so much Yaro and Ovetel? Because he =0A did no=
t let you suck his dick?<br><br>I think it is just a hate of =0A competi=
tion! I understand it is hard when you see your competitors growing =0A =
fast and you only sucking dicks. So my advice to you would be stop sucking =
=0A dicks homo and writing this bullshit here get a life.<br><br>Ovetel =
is very =0A reputable company and many of us here in Asterisk-Biz doing =
business with =0A Ovetel we don't care who they work with is it a TATA o=
r SwissCom we only =0A care that they provide us with what we need and t=
his is most important. =0A <br><br>From my personal experience Yaro is a=
man of his word, he delivers =0A always on time what he promises.<br><b=
r>Ovetel keep up a good work!<br><br>=0A <div>=0A <div>=0A <div></=
div>=0A <div>On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Vlad Shoz <span dir=3D"ltr=
"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3D=
vladshoz at yahoo.com">vladshoz at yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div=
>=0A <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);">=0A <div>=0A <div></d=
iv>=0A <div>=0A <table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=
=3D"0">=0A <tbody>=0A <tr>=0A <td valign=3D"top">Hel=
lo Guys,<br><br>Here we go again telling the truth =0A about OVE=
TEL.!<br><br><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.ovete=
l.com/partners.html">http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html</a><br><br>Sr. =0A=
Yaro, claims to have lot of international agreements with 400 =
=0A partners ; i contacted<br>some of those "partners", like TAT=
A and =0A SwissCom who i have business relationship and they don=
't have any =0A kind agreement with ovetel. Ovetel is not custom=
er from =0A them!!.<br><br>Yaro, if you buy minutes from carrier=
s who are =0A connected with them ; don't give you rights to exp=
osure those telcos =0A which you don't have agreements! Don't be=
a fool.<br><br>You=B4re =0A trying to create fake ovetel 'reput=
ation'. But i am 100% sure all =0A guys from asterisk-biz have e=
xperience and know exacly what you are. =0A Work from home<br>wi=
th fake e-mails ( creating fake employees ) to =0A say - ovetel =
have at least 5 people<br>working!<br><br>Come on Yaro, =0A say =
the truth to everybody :) It=B4s better to be a small and honest =0A =
voip broker. working from home is not so bad, right?<br><br>Think =0A =
about this.! Be =0A honest!<br><br></td></tr></tbody></tabl=
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