[asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight

Wed Apr 8 07:37:02 CDT 2009

Ahahah nice one, there is something we all call ethics, but hey, how can you
trust your local grocery store, maybe they poisoning you with genetically
mod'ed food, or aspartame, maybe there is a conspiracy with oil prices,
maybe our wives actually don't work and all have affairs with the colo guy
as well, why  doesn't the foreign support guy from your landline/cable
service just use your account to download stuff or call ?

you def need to trust someone ,

 somewhere, else you're on your own, and that means no business, as the word
itself defined 

"It is in the 16th century that we also first find the specific sense of
"trade; commercial transactions or engagements""

From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Wes Reece
Sent: April-07-09 11:59 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight

Its interesting that most people prefer colo. I dont know why but I'm afraid
of trusting other people with my operations or data. The thought of the colo
employee, sending out millions of voip calls from my box perhapse. How did
you guys over come this fear? or am I just being too paranoid? 

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Stephane Bakhos
<voip-asterisk at maximumcrm.com> wrote:

Yes, we use these in our most critical servers.

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, ContactTel Business wrote:

> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:29:10 -0400
> From: ContactTel Business <lists at contacttel.com>

> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>
> Steph, you talking about
> http://www.ami.com/products/product.cfm?CatID=4
<http://www.ami.com/products/product.cfm?CatID=4&SubID=32&prodid=196>
&SubID=32&prodid=196 ?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Stephane
Bakhos
> Sent: April-07-09 7:52 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>
> If you are starting out in business colocation is usually the cheapest
> option. you won't have to worry about all of the hassle related to running
> an actual data center.
>
> There are a lot of colocation providers out there, unfortunately the
> various experiences I had only proved that cost is not the best metric for
> reliability.
>
> I do however recommend that you have in house technical staff and not to
> rely on the staff of whichever colocation center you select. Or at the
> very least make sure you work with a dependable contractor that can
> respond to emergencies.
>
> If that isn't an option, invest in a lights-out remote management card to
> plug your server in (www.ami.com <http://www.ami.com/>  has some ok ones).
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Max Clark wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:27:34 -0700
>> From: Max Clark <max.clark at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>>
>> There are a lot of pieces to this puzzle. Examples:
>>
>> - For some companies the $1,000/sq foot average construction costs
>> keep the idea of building an in house datacenter off the table.
>> - For small (100 sq foot) installations it's reasonable to purchase a
>> medium sized UPS and HVAC for the computer room - the nightmare is
>> getting a generator installed and a permit for the exhaust and fuel
>> storage.
>> - Even installing fiber into your office
>> (http://www.phyber.com/ip/#ontap) doesn't give you the rapid scale of
>> being able to order new GigE/10Gig circuits overnight at a colo.
>>
>> How much would it cost your business per hour of downtime? Could you
>> survive if you lost service to your building for two days?
>>
>> For most it is way easier/cheaper to colocate the equipment.
>>
>> -Max
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