[asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job

Wed Nov 12 21:47:11 CST 2008

I dont agree with having people sign up at these bidding sites, i think they
are a bit over rated.
besides that, andy might have a small niche here of people needing things
done, now why should
he go and compete with thousands of others on some bidding site. we are
speaking of someone
 probably without alot of funds at the moment, and in order to get any real
work from these bidding
site well most of them require you to pay for some type of gold level fee
which is just rediculous.
I know a group of programmers i outsource all my development to, no bids, no
comptetition,
they work i pay, been that way for 10+ years now, so if anyone has projects
they need done
programming or systems wise, they can let me know, ive got the developers
hungry and waiting
as for graphics and web design, i have work i think maybe andy could
accomplish.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Dean Collins <Dean at cognation.net> wrote:

>  Hey Drew, Andy should get his shit together and bid on projects at
> 99designs.
>
> If he's got a half decent portfolio there is plenty of work to bid on
> there.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Collins
> Cognation Inc
> dean at cognation.net
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> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:
> asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Drew Gibson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 November 2008 4:21 PM
>
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job
>
>
>
> Hey Dean,
>
> I think we're trying to find work for ANDY here! :-)
>
> regards,
>
> Drew
>
>
> Dean Collins wrote:
>
> You should check out www.99designs.com
>
>
>
> i use this site to find freelance design work for all my projects.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dean at cognation.net
>
>
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> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Steve Totaro
> *Sent:* Wed 11/12/2008 1:11 PM
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job
>
> Ditto
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> i own OptimWIFI a wireles sinternet services provider, can you do web
> design, graphics, logos ?? I have a need for a graphics artist with talent
> and a brain to do some graphics, logos, design, brochures. Think you can
> handle it ?? i know its not much but if the work is good i can probably get
> you more thru people i know
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello my friend, I am in Shenzhen
>
> 2008/11/12 Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> where in China do you reside ? what city ?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for you everyone for your help, does anyone have any part-time job
> for me, I can do the works of translation between english and chinese as
> well as help you make purchase in China and check the quality of goods only
> with small commissions.
>
> Also I can do photoshop and coreldraw and can help you make logo and web
>
>
>
> Thank you very much everyone
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> andy
>
> 2008/11/12 STEVE TOTARO <STOTARO at mail.schoffstall.com>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Andrew Kohlsmith
> (lists)
> >Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 7:32 PM
> >To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
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> >Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job
> >
> >On November 11, 2008 10:08:49 am Steve Totaro wrote:
> >> Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair, but having gone
> >> through them many times over the years, I conclude they are mostly
> >> comparable to a tick, leech, or worst case, a tape worm.
> >
> >This is an unfair stereotype.  I have had the pleasure of working with a
> few
> >headhunters who have placed me where I would have never been able to find
> >work on my own.  Not because I'm incompetent, but rather because
> >their "reach" is so much wider than mine. Yes, their cut is very high in
> my
> >opinion, but I am by and large very happy to work with them.
> >
> >I find that if you take the time to establish a good working relationship
> with
> >them, and if you establish clear expectations and can demonstrate your
> >capabilities, you end up with an excellent resource for finding varied and
> >challenging work.
> >
> >Remember you can always turn down their offers, but why would you write
> off
> >the entire industry? I am happy to work in a dozen industries rather than
> >just one.
> >
> >-A.
>
> I suppose you missed this little bit "Sorry, they do have a purpose, and
> some are very fair" or maybe you wouldn't be attempting to correct me.
>
> A stereotype is a natural thing for humans, we group, classify, assign a
> genus and phylum...  It is how we make sense of things.  Like it or not,
> stereotypes are generally correct, although there are exceptions to
> everything, as I stated in the beginning.
>
> I have worked with many of them and as I said, some are very fair.  I liken
> the rest to the now extinct subprime mortgage brokers.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve T
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