[asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job

[Steve Totaro]

Well I am all for community building, and Andy may be the most honest and
open person I have seen on the internet (to a fault almost, but I find it
somewhat endearing), so if Andy can do something for me, and do it well, I
would certainly give him the work over some random person on a Freelance
site.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Chip Greenberg <chip at callspider.com> wrote:

> I have also used guru.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Dean Collins wrote:
>
>  You should check out www.99designs.com
>
> i use this site to find freelance design work for all my projects.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dean at cognation.net
>
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> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Steve Totaro
> *Sent:* Wed 11/12/2008 1:11 PM
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job
>
> Ditto
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> i own OptimWIFI a wireles sinternet services provider, can you do web
>> design, graphics, logos ?? I have a need for a graphics artist with talent
>> and a brain to do some graphics, logos, design, brochures. Think you can
>> handle it ?? i know its not much but if the work is good i can probably get
>> you more thru people i know
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello my friend, I am in Shenzhen
>>>
>>> 2008/11/12 Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> where in China do you reside ? what city ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for you everyone for your help, does anyone have any part-time
>>>>> job for me, I can do the works of translation between english and chinese as
>>>>> well as help you make purchase in China and check the quality of goods only
>>>>> with small commissions.
>>>>> Also I can do photoshop and coreldraw and can help you make logo and
>>>>> web
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> andy
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/11/12 STEVE TOTARO <STOTARO at mail.schoffstall.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Andrew
>>>>>> Kohlsmith (lists)
>>>>>> >Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 7:32 PM
>>>>>> >To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>>>>>> >Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >On November 11, 2008 10:08:49 am Steve Totaro wrote:
>>>>>> >> Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair, but having
>>>>>> gone
>>>>>> >> through them many times over the years, I conclude they are mostly
>>>>>> >> comparable to a tick, leech, or worst case, a tape worm.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >This is an unfair stereotype.  I have had the pleasure of working
>>>>>> with a few
>>>>>> >headhunters who have placed me where I would have never been able to
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> >work on my own.  Not because I'm incompetent, but rather because
>>>>>> >their "reach" is so much wider than mine. Yes, their cut is very high
>>>>>> in my
>>>>>> >opinion, but I am by and large very happy to work with them.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I find that if you take the time to establish a good working
>>>>>> relationship with
>>>>>> >them, and if you establish clear expectations and can demonstrate
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> >capabilities, you end up with an excellent resource for finding
>>>>>> varied and
>>>>>> >challenging work.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Remember you can always turn down their offers, but why would you
>>>>>> write off
>>>>>> >the entire industry? I am happy to work in a dozen industries rather
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> >just one.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >-A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose you missed this little bit "Sorry, they do have a purpose,
>>>>>> and some are very fair" or maybe you wouldn't be attempting to correct me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A stereotype is a natural thing for humans, we group, classify, assign
>>>>>> a genus and phylum...  It is how we make sense of things.  Like it or not,
>>>>>> stereotypes are generally correct, although there are exceptions to
>>>>>> everything, as I stated in the beginning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have worked with many of them and as I said, some are very fair.  I
>>>>>> liken the rest to the now extinct subprime mortgage brokers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Steve T
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> andy
>>>>> andyspr at gmail.com
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> andy
>>> andyspr at gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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