[asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job

Dean Collins Dean at cognation.net
Wed Nov 12 12:29:54 CST 2008


You should check out www.99designs.com
 
i use this site to find freelance design work for all my projects.
 
 
 
Cheers,
Dean at cognation.net

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Steve Totaro
Sent: Wed 11/12/2008 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job


Ditto


On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com> wrote:


	i own OptimWIFI a wireles sinternet services provider, can you do web design, graphics, logos ?? I have a need for a graphics artist with talent and a brain to do some graphics, logos, design, brochures. Think you can handle it ?? i know its not much but if the work is good i can probably get you more thru people i know 
	

	On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
	

		Hello my friend, I am in Shenzhen
		
		
		2008/11/12 Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com> 


			where in China do you reside ? what city ? 


			On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
			

				Thanks for you everyone for your help, does anyone have any part-time job for me, I can do the works of translation between english and chinese as well as help you make purchase in China and check the quality of goods only with small commissions.
				Also I can do photoshop and coreldraw and can help you make logo and web
				 
				Thank you very much everyone
				 
				Best regards
				andy
				
				
				2008/11/12 STEVE TOTARO <STOTARO at mail.schoffstall.com>
				

					>-----Original Message-----
					>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)
					>Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 7:32 PM
					>To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
					
					>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job
					>
					>On November 11, 2008 10:08:49 am Steve Totaro wrote:
					>> Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair, but having gone
					>> through them many times over the years, I conclude they are mostly
					>> comparable to a tick, leech, or worst case, a tape worm.
					>
					>This is an unfair stereotype.  I have had the pleasure of working with a few
					>headhunters who have placed me where I would have never been able to find
					>work on my own.  Not because I'm incompetent, but rather because
					>their "reach" is so much wider than mine. Yes, their cut is very high in my
					>opinion, but I am by and large very happy to work with them.
					>
					>I find that if you take the time to establish a good working relationship with
					>them, and if you establish clear expectations and can demonstrate your
					>capabilities, you end up with an excellent resource for finding varied and
					>challenging work.
					>
					>Remember you can always turn down their offers, but why would you write off
					>the entire industry? I am happy to work in a dozen industries rather than
					>just one.
					>
					>-A.
					
					
					I suppose you missed this little bit "Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair" or maybe you wouldn't be attempting to correct me.
					
					A stereotype is a natural thing for humans, we group, classify, assign a genus and phylum...  It is how we make sense of things.  Like it or not, stereotypes are generally correct, although there are exceptions to everything, as I stated in the beginning.
					
					I have worked with many of them and as I said, some are very fair.  I liken the rest to the now extinct subprime mortgage brokers.
					
					Thanks,
					Steve T
					
					
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