[asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider

Tue Jun 24 04:34:28 CDT 2008

OOOPS, I meant to say BUT, they backhaul the traffic on a highly
controlled network, not the "public" internet.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> BUT,
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Jon Weisman <jweisman at ibell.net> wrote:
>> Steve,
>>
>> I get what you're saying about TDM, but most providers are backhauling their
>> traffic via VoIP anyway. What I mean to say is even if you have a PRI w/
>> some carrier they may very well be taking your traffic on that PRI and
>> passing it along VoIP to complete the call.
>>
>> /jon
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider
>>
>>
>>> Maybe a bit of clarification about "Is it worth it?".
>>>
>>> I have always gone by the TDM to the outside world viewpoint.  You
>>> never know when that one call could be a huge opportunity calling and
>>> I think I will stay with that viewpoint for at least a PRI or two.
>>>
>>> I would hate to lose a deal because of crappy call quality or the call
>>> never even hitting my switch.  Sure, that could and has happened VERY
>>> rarely with TDM, I could count it on one hand with PRI on a circuit
>>> that has been turned up for a while and no change orders.
>>>
>>> At one point in a previous life, we were evaluating what call center
>>> to outsource our Spanish calls to.  One of the contenders setup a
>>> conference bridge and the quality was terrible, then some random woman
>>> got on the call and kept saying "hola, hola, hola".  This was a poor
>>> VoIP setup and made them look terrible.  At least use a solid TDM
>>> connection for initial sales calls.
>>>
>>> Well I have signed up with Junction for testing and got a call from a
>>> gentleman named Tim within minutes of signing up.  I already have a
>>> Vitelity account.  I will sign up for Teliax and others that have
>>> contacted me on and offlist.
>>>
>>> I will probably setup a regular and also random dialout loop routine
>>> using many of the various VoIP providers and use Emperix Hammer with
>>> ULAW, recording any outages and the quality of voice.
>>>
>>> I still have a month and a half before my PRIs renew for a year and
>>> now Qwest is offering month to month (only because I put in a
>>> disconnect order) which will give me more time as well.
>>>
>>> The proof will be in the testing.  15mb up and down business FIOS with
>>> little to no traffic on the link other than VoIP traffic and server
>>> maintenance.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve Totaro
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Steve Totaro
>>> <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
>>>> Junction is a bit expensive (compared to others), the question is, are
>>>> they worth it?  Downtime or other issues?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Steve T
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Tim Panton <thp at westhawk.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I have been pretty happy with teliax.
>>>>> The only problems I have had are a _very_ occasional outage and a
>>>>> shortage of decent capacity to UK cell numbers at peak times.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a neat feature which lets you interactively get the rate for
>>>>> a number via a REST web service.
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked junction, but they only deal with US busineses, which probably
>>>>> won't be a problem for you and indicates a robust attitude to
>>>>> business:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have enough volume you might want to talk to paetech (spelling?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:10, "Steve Totaro"
>>>>> <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com
>>>>>  > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gafachi gives 10 outbound and $32/channel one time fee up to 100,
>>>>>> beyond that, they want a wire transfer.  Poor deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be looking at Teliax, Vitelity, and Junction Networks, any
>>>>>> reviews?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is going on a FIOS business 15mb up and down.  Bandwidth
>>>>>> shouldn't be an issues since nothing is really on this connection.
>>>>>> Latency and reliability are obviously key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am breaking my no VoIP outside the LAN rule, let's see how it goes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is time to either re-up on my PRIs for another year or go VoIP (or
>>>>>> both if I can get month to month)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Steve T
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Geoff Love <GLove at teliax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Teliax has a plan that will meet your needs. We call it the pay as
>>>>>>> you go
>>>>>>> plan and it can be set up with unlimited channels. Please visit
>>>>>>> Teliax.com
>>>>>>> and take a look at the Plans tab. It shows that we provide 10
>>>>>>> channels but
>>>>>>> we can easily expand that to unlimited.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We charge for usage and any DID's that you choose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Teliax is now offering a revamped affiliate program too. Contact me
>>>>>>> offline
>>>>>>> and I can provide you with all of the details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geoff Love
>>>>>>> 303-629-8304
>>>>>>> Glove at teliax.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
>>>>>>> Totaro
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>>>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am looking for a good quality provider with good rates to the US
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Canada.  My main concern is the number of simultaneous channels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gafachi has ten for outbound.  Is there a provider that has
>>>>>>> "unlimited" and just bases cost on call destination and duration?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Steve Totaro
>>>>>>>
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