[asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

[Trixter aka Bret McDanel]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 16:43 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:05:51PM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 10:31 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
> > > > I will give Jay the benefit of the doubt, but he is usually very quick
> > > > to reply these kinds of messages.  Maybe he is on vacation or
> > > > otherwise not interested or checking his email right now.
> > > > 
> > > > Or possibly he does not care to eat crow.
> > > 
> > > I like mine fried, but I don't have to eat it too often, and this is
> > > certainly not one of those times.
> > > 
> > Well at least you informed us that the reason telephony equipment is so
> > expensive is because of support issues.  Now I know nortel charges an
> > arm and a leg just so they can provide support to its customers, and not
> > because of a "because we can" attitude.  Thanks for clearing that up I
> > was so misguided to think that selling service and support contracts
> > extra like some of them do that the equipment price was justified with
> > things like "R&D" and some such when the reality is "greed".  
> 
> I did, in fact, point out that the issue is reliability generally; I
> didn't say "provide support"; I said "doesn't break as much".
> 

wow and now you will lie about it?  Well I gotta remember who I am
talking to, this isnt the first time you have lied on this list,
probably wont be the last.  Usually it occurs when you change arguments
and refuse to admit any type of error.  

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/2008-June/026823.html
"Supporting this is not cheap. Someone has to pay for it."

And hey its this thread even, and yes you did say something about providing 
support, you briefly mentioned reliability, but emphasised support mentioning 
that more places in that email.  An email that took multiple attempts to get 
you to explain why in your opinion most people on this list are too stupid to 
know this secret knowledge.



> Well, I suspect everyone on this list whose opinion I care about will
> read my posting, and your reply, and make their own decisions who's a
> crank, and who's not.

I hope so, again your past posts come back to haunt you, again you will
argue with people changing your position anytime you hit a road block,
and again you got caught doing it.

I know that I wouldnt trust anyone in business that has lied publicly on
multiple occasions.  

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