[asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

[Steve Totaro]

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 12:01:08PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:02 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
>>> >> I would assume that's retail, yes.
>>> >>
>>> >> Computer people, and in my experience even Asterisk people, tend to
>>> >> forget how high the markup is on packaged telephony gear -- and more to
>>> >> the point, *why* it's that high.
>>> >
>>> > ok, why not providing some information since we all forget why its that
>>> > high, can you provide some information regarding that?
>>>
>>> Because that has always been the status quo.  "We are the Big Ole
>>> Expensive Phone Company".
>>
>> Horseshit, Steve.  :-)
>
> Please refrain from profanity on a public list.  Karma -1
>
>>
>>> But in this case, 3Com has distribution chains established,
>>> advertising materials, sales people, rent, insurance, entertainment
>>> budgets, retirement packages, VIP salaries....
>>
>> And those people who you can call for tech support at 3 ayem when your
>> hotel can't take calls anymore...
>
> Sure, if you buy a support agreement, which BTW does not come with the
> system.  At least that is the way it worked with the NBX stuff.  And
> no, you could not call 3Com directly, you had to call your dealer....
> Huge money maker, 24/7 support contracts.
>
> Moot point since the package is the Asterisk Appliance, it might
> support the "No Tell Motel" but a far cry from a real hotel.
> Obviously, you didn't read the thread....
>
>>
>>> This means that at some point, I can probably run down the road to
>>> Target Distributing and pickup a system with phones, it's about 30
>>> miles away if that is what a customer demands.
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>>> If not, I can use 3Com's sales material to prove Asterisk is "Ready"
>>> and out sell that little box with a real server, more functionality,
>>> customization, and profit to me time and time again.
>>
>> As long as you enjoy being up at 3.am, as the email address has it...
>
> No, I will be sound asleep, I will outsource it to Uganda or the
> Philippines (regular business hours there) to techs that are very
> knowledgeable and charge a very high premium for 24/7 support.  No
> skin off my back, 8 hours of sleep and free money!  what else can you
> ask for?

I meant to say I charge the high premium but pay the techs the going
rate in their country.

>
> Thanks,
> Steve T
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
>> --
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