[asterisk-biz] Fraud. (here we go again)

[Nitzan Kon]

Google Checkout (while not a traditional payment gateway) actually
has pretty decent fraud controls. The reason we caught the Vietnam
guy (and found his other accounts) is that two of his attempts via
Google Checkout were rejected by Google as fraud.

PayPal sucks to infinity in this regard - no fraud protection at all.

--
Nitzan Kon, CEO
Future Nine Corporation
www.future-nine.com

--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Al Lougher <alougher at yahoo.com> wrote:

> All of the payment gateway's fraud detection features
> suck. We use Bank of America's gateway and best it will
> do is an address check. But most scammers have all that info
> anyway.
> 
> 
> Alan
> www.group2call.com
> 
> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Peter Beckman
> <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:
> From: Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Fraud. (here we go again)
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
> Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 1:30 PM
> 
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, randulo wrote:
> 
> > As Steve T mentions an example above, wouldn't
> this best be done by
> > using a payment gateway that guarantees the card? This
> is expensive,
> > but less expensive than the potential losses. I
> don't have a name to
> > provide, but I worked on software for a customer last
> year and had
> > access to their payment system. It had optional very
> strong fraud
> > protection built in.
> 
>   If you are referring to Paypal's Fraud Protection
> Services, they suck and
>   are way more expensive than MinFraud.  I've found
> MinFraud better at
>   stopping fraud and giving me details to determine after
> the fact if an
>   account is fraudulent than Paypal's FPS ever did.
> 
>   Your post would be infinitely more useful if you could
> provide some detail
>   about this vaporware service...
> 
> Beckman
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> Peter Beckman                                              
>    Internet Guy
> beckman at angryox.com                                
> http://www.angryox.com/
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