AW: AW: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available

[Peter Bowyer]

Perhaps Roland could clarify this. The product certainly does include
Qt and iaxclient. I received a copy of the yakaphone source code,
which came with no license information at all. Hard to work out what
my rights and obligations are.

Since the binary distribution, which is a single Windows executable,
incorporates iaxclient, I believe it should comply with section 6 of
the LGPL.

I think the moral here is that just saying something is Open Source
doesn't make it so. If you're going to build on other peoples' Open
Source efforts, you need to respect the license, and probably get your
own license written by someone who understands the subject area.

Peter

On 10/03/07, Zoa <zoachien at securax.org> wrote:
>
> Just to be clear, it is not a problem that its not open source compliant
> (we don't even supply sources to our softphone), he only has to release
> iaxclient in LGPL to be ok.
> (Although if they are using Qt and are using a free version, it's a
> violation of the Qt license).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Zoa.
>
> Zoa wrote:
> > I would say: the source is available, but its not open source.
> >
> > From http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php :
> >
> >
> >      6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
> >
> > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in
> > a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the
> > program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic
> > research.
> >
> >
> >      3. Derived Works
> >
> > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow
> > them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the
> > original software.
> >
> >    /*Rationale:* The mere ability to read source isn't enough to
> >    support independent peer review and rapid evolutionary selection.
> >    For rapid evolution to happen, people need to be able to experiment
> >    with and redistribute modifications.
> >    /
> >
> >    /
> >    /
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Roland Ndaka Fru wrote:
> >> ...You can't change it for COMMERCIAL use without permission...
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Zoa
> >> Gesendet: 10 March 2007 15:43
> >> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >> Betreff: Re: AW: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> >>
> >>
> >> Its "open source" but you can't change it without permission... weird.
> >>
> >>
> >> Roland Ndaka Fru wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> You can request the source code using the contact form on the webpage.
> >>>
> >>> Grretz,
> >>> Roland.
> >>>
> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Peter
> >>> Bowyer
> >>> Gesendet: 10 March 2007 09:46
> >>> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>> Betreff: Re: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> >>>
> >>> In what way is the software Open Source? I couldn't find anywhere on
> >>> your website to download the souce code, and the license agreement
> >>> isn't of any recognised OSS form.
> >>>
> >>> Does the product use any OSS components?
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> On 08/03/07, Roland Ndaka Fru <pedros09 at ndaka.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Steve & all Asteriskis,
> >>>>
> >>>> You can check out the YakaPhone and its OEM derivatives at
> >>>> www.yakasoftware.com. It is IAX/IAX2, simple, open and you can use it
> >>>>
> >> with
> >>
> >>>> any server to see if it fits your stability requirements.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Roland.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] Im Auftrag von Steve
> >>>>
> >> Totaro
> >>
> >>>> Gesendet: 08 March 2007 21:08
> >>>> An: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>>> Betreff: RE: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> >>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mohsen Basirat
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:33 PM
> >>>>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> >>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] OEM IAX2 Softphone is available
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear all
> >>>>> if you are interested in IAX2 OEM softphone we can
> >>>>> provide is for you with your logo and your brand name
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Mohsen Basirat
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Can you provide a demo of some sort?  Most softphones I have seen are
> >>>> unstable, especially IAX2 softphones.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Steve
> >>>>
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