[asterisk-biz] What do you pay for PRI in the US?

[Mike Hammett]

IP can be added much more readily than a TDM connection.  TDM pretty much
requires that you have said trunk from the ILEC.  One exception is TDM based
wireless gear.  IP can be delivered to you via DSL, cable, third-party
fiber, wireless, etc.  That saves all of the TDM work for the carrier.  DSL
and cable can usually be added within a week.  Wireless can be done same
day, though like fiber it varies a lot with whom that other company is.

That was all pertaining to things outside of a carrier hotel.

Within a carrier hotel, connections can happen much more rapidly.  High
capacity cross connects with capacity of 1200 or 12k calls are likely
already in place, only requiring a couple minutes of administration (if not
automated) to upgrade MIR.  If not, they can usually be established in a
quick amount of time.


 
 
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 
 



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:04 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] What do you pay for PRI in the US?

That is also assuming you and the Virtual PRI provider have the 
bandwidth to take those new channels, if not, how many months do you 
have to wait for essentially the same physical connections to be made?  
My guess is it is the same lead time ;-)

Thanks,
Steve

Mike Hammett wrote:
> I'm not talking about any specific cases here.
>
> This is one advantage of VoIP vs. TDM.  If you run out of TDM channels,
how
> many months does it take to get new ones?  If you have VoIP connections,
it
> could be as quick as that same day.
>
> This would allow someone to not have a whole DS3 sitting empty, afraid of
> busy signals.  Instead they could keep a more slim ratio and have a
warning
> go off when you reach a certain threshold and order another few channels.
>
> I am a firm believer that TDM has no place in the coming VoIP world (sans
> the carrier's interconnections with the PSTN).
>
>
>  
>  
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>  
>  
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] What do you pay for PRI in the US?
>
> asterisk_help at iwishi.nu wrote:
>   
>>> True enough.  There is a trunk for each subscriber but the 
>>> ingress/egress certainly could not handle all of those trunks 
>>> simultaneously.  I would still want to know a ratio going into it, 
>>> otherwise, I would just take my chances with a real PRI for slightly 
>>> more money.
>>>       
>> And a "real PRI" has exactly the same issue. The only thing a real PRI 
>> has over the nontraditional PRI is that you ASSUME the company is 
>> larger and has experenced engineers to monitor the network.
>>
>> I remember in Minnesota when MCI hit the local market. The sales guys 
>> sold to ISP's left and right. Their service fell flat on it's ass each 
>> time an ISP was connected. Next move, they disconnected exisiting ISP 
>> accounts and made the front page of the news paper and headline on the 
>> TV news. This was back in about early 1997.
>>
>> Ratio information only assumes you think you're a better engineer than 
>> they are. Again as was pointed out, some customers might be grandma 
>> and the other a telemarketer.
>>     
>
> I am not arguing that fact but if a reseller is just selling trunks from 
> a "real" telco, then isn't the issue of contention compounded?  There is 
> a ratio of a ratio, correct?
>
> Believe me, I know about grandmas and telemarketers.  I ran a call 
> center with a TDM T3 from Global Crossing with a $30,000/mo phone bill. 
>
> The fact of the matter is that Molten is marketing this to business 
> users on a large scale (Brian said so himself), not grandmas.  If you 
> put it in the proper context, maybe you will see my point of view.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> _______________________________________________
> --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --
>
> asterisk-biz mailing list
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
>    http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
>
> _______________________________________________
> --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --
>
> asterisk-biz mailing list
> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
>    http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
>
>   

_______________________________________________
--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --

asterisk-biz mailing list
To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:
   http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz