[asterisk-biz] Fraud Alert: Tradevoice.net

[Zac Amsler]

Jean-Michel Hiver,

Sorry if I offended you.
I guess my business values are different than some. Different teachers I 
guess.

I actually do wish you the best.

Cheers,
-- 
Zac Amsler, Network Operations
NetIQ Systems, LLC www.netiqsys.net <http://www.netiqsys.net>
US48 $.01/min, Canada OnNet $.008, Competitive A-Z Rates.



Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:
> Zac Amsler a écrit :
>
>> One last thought. (Sorry for the multiple posts.. I just woke up. And 
>> reading posts in the wrong direction.)
>>
>> I would like to address an aspect of this post.
>>
>> This aspect being privacy.
>>
>> You have publicly flamed someone who shared personal information with 
>> your company.
>> I don't know what your privacy policies are, but they should include 
>> a clause that protects the customer.
>
> I thought of that. But since the company doesn't legally exist and the 
> name is probably a fake, it doesn't harm very much. The only thing of 
> "value" in there is the IP address of the softswitch, and I wanted to 
> warn others about it.
>
> Besides, this person isn't "a customer". It's not like he's just not 
> paid the invoices. He's disappeared completely, took down website, 
> email, phone, etc. He or she has forged bank wire transfers, used fake 
> identities, etc. What does "privacy" mean when the whole thing is a 
> fake to start with?
>
>
>> IMO it is not your job to tell the world how bad someone is. You 
>> should be dealing with this issue professionally and quietly.
>> Hire bill collectors. Send out head hunters.
>>
>> IMO Asking the list if someone knew how to get a hold of this person 
>> is fine.
>>
>> You could have left out the bad debt part of it and saved yourself face.
>
> I don't think admitting I've been abused and / or made a mistake is 
> saving face. Hiding your mistakes and / or errors and pretending 
> everything is going perfectly OK is just being cocky at best.
>
> And i wouldn't feel any good if somebody else on the list got screwed 
> because I "pretended" that nothing ever happened. So beware...
>
>
>> I am sorry to say this, but I hope that all your customers leave you 
>> because you have shown that you are unable to respect their privacy.
>
> Oh, thank you so much for wishing me so much harm. That's exactly what 
> I needed.
>
> Well, I am not going to wish this kind of stuff happened to you - nor 
> anybody else. But if it did, at least you'd understand why you're 
> talking rubbish.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Jean-Michel.
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