[asterisk-biz] out of the box PBX

[Farzal Dojki]

Dear Kristian, please save your insults for some other forum. I had only
asked for software license + support (if possible). And my 2nd entry was an
open question hoping for honest answer.

That's to Mr. Mitul Limbani response, I have an idea what's going on in the
market from 'business' perspective. It seems the base system is able to
support that number of users. Many companies just have their business models
built around the # users that will use the system.

But plenty of vendors exist out there whose SMB software will cost below
$1000, which I guess would be our new price ceiling instead of $500.

And we will of course continue to play with core asterisk and one day hope
to go 100% free. We, in fact, are a PBX reseller.

Thanks everyone,

Farzal

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Kristian
Kielhofner
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:30 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] out of the box PBX

Farzal Dojki wrote:
> Not sure why so much hostility over this question. 50 users or 5, the
> underlying system is free, open source PBX called Asterisk. So it's not an
> issue of scalability. IF you have a user friendly enough interface, then
> creating 5 or 50 users is the same thing. 
> 
> And really, other than free trixbox, there are many systems for under
$1000
> in the market that are already going that. Switchvox, fonality, freepbx,
> Intuitive, etc.
> 
> So, please, I hope to get some good answer. Why does it matter to you, if
I
> use your software to create 5 users, or 50 users? Why is trixbox free? Why
> is fonality and many others selling software+hardware at $1000?
> 
> Farzal
> 

Farzal,

	I wouldn't go so far as so say there is "hostility".  But...

	Your price range does seem to be far below what most people are 
charging for the level of functionality that you require.  Yes, Asterisk 
is free.  However, the whole industry that has sprung up around Asterisk 
has created tools to enhance the overall Asterisk experience, and some 
of these tools are quite good.  These tools combined with Asterisk 
provide a level of functionality (and more) that 10 years ago would have 
cost > $30,000.  Now you can get it for $5000.

	If you want something cheap or free, use Asterisk (like the rest of
us) 
and spend your own time adding the features you require (web interface, 
operator panel, etc).  Nobody is stopping you from doing that!

	The product you are looking for can't practically exist.  The
interface 
cards alone (tdm04b x2 = ~$700).  At the price you are looking for, the 
supplier would be taking a loss just on the cards!  What about the 
interface, machine to run it on, not to mention support!  Unless UNICEF 
has gone into the PBX business, this isn't going to happen...

	If you can find anyone to provide the product you are looking for
(for 
that price), start looking for an alternate means of support ASAP. 
There is no way they will be able to stay in business for very long.

-- 
Kristian Kielhofner
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