[asterisk-biz] Re: OT: Gore Still Ahead

Matthew Rubenstein email at mattruby.com
Wed Oct 4 21:03:28 MST 2006 

	Are you looking for ways to excuse the child molesting Foley did just
because he continued carrying on after the boys were legally men?

	What kind of depraved child molester protector are you? Other than
"Republican" - that much is so obvious that it's redundant. Now tell us
that I shouldn't go so hard on Foley, because it's not his fault that
god made him gay.

	You are going straight to hell. At least you'll have a lot of familiar
company, like your favorite "journalists" including Drudge, Limbaugh,
O'Reilly...


On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 23:32 -0400, C F wrote:
> It would be interesting to know if this is also part of the
> republicans smearing campaigns:
> "On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange
> between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of
> 18."
> Now look at this:
> http://drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm
> 
> On 10/3/06, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
> >
> >    Look people, only one thing I am going to say to rest my case:
> >
> >      Gas prices are down because it is election year.
> >
> >    Don't take my word for it, just wait until January 2007 when the
> > republicans are comfortably seating on their congressional chairs,
> > that's when gas prices will "conviniently" go back to the sky.
> >
> >    And don't tell me this kind of abuse doesn't deserve to be condenmed
> > in this asterisk-biz forum or any other... That's it, I'll turn this
> > page and not continue this thread, but go ahead and vote for who you
> > want and get what you deserve...
> >
> > CS
> >
> >
> > Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> > >       A Republican Congressman child molester is helped by the Republicans
> > > running the House to keep meeting children to molest for months or years
> > > while basing his career on "protecting children from Internet
> > > molesters". You're one of those demented Republicans who can only whine
> > > about how "Democrats will benefit from this, so it must somehow be their
> > > fault". Instead of just accepting that your Republicans conspired to
> > > help this pervert molest children. No, you're so dirty that you've got
> > > to dig up this finally-dead OT thread, to *spin for the molesters* by
> > > claiming Democrats are just "smearing". Typical kneejerk Republican
> > > projection of your own worst fears about yourself onto your targets.
> > >
> > >       Who cares what you think about anything, except maybe *Asterisk
> > > business*? Which doesn't necessarily require any conscience, though when
> > > it does, we should remember just what you think is important. Protecting
> > > your child molester Republicans from losing their Congressional seats.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:50 -0400, C F wrote:
> > >> Interesting you say that, since it appears the Dems are doing that now:
> > >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20061002/bs_ibd_ibd/2006102issues01
> > >>
> > >> On 9/28/06, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
> > >>>    Let me add to this interesting thread, that it is in the interest of
> > >>> the present administration to discredit anything and anyone from the
> > >>> Clinton administration... the reason is because the last thing they want
> > >>> is to have the Clintons back in the White House... be aware of smearing
> > >>> campaigns circulating on the Internet and the media nowadays...
> > >>>
> > >>> CS
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:39:41AM -0400, C F wrote:
> > >>>>>>>                                                    Since the whole
> > >>>>>>> paragraph only speaks about the Intenet in that one sentence (I took
> > >>>>>>> the initiative.....), then it's NOT out of context to say that he
> > >>>>>>> claimed he invented the Internet.
> > >>>>>> Again, no, it's not out of context.  It's merely incorrect.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If one chooses to interpret Gore's usage of "Internet" to mean "the
> > >>>>>> commercial Internet that we have today", then yes, the initiatives he
> > >>>>>> worked on, including NREN, probably had a lot to do with it.
> > >>>>> OK, I'm listening, since this was on TV in English, can you explain
> > >>>>> what other meaning Internet has in the English language?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is my source, which disagrees with your English interpretation
> > >>>>> for the word Internet:
> > >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
> > >>>> "The Internet is the largest equivalence class in the reflexive
> > >>>> transitive symmetric closure of the relationship "can be reached by an
> > >>>> IP packet from".
> > >>>> --Seth Breidbart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But for our purposes here, The Internet is a large commercial network
> > >>>> service utility to which you can purchase access from any number of
> > >>>> competing vendors, which can carry any traffic, whether commercial or
> > >>>> not, and which has a sufficiently large number of service providers (and
> > >>>> potential clients) attached to it to make it a worthwhile thing to spend
> > >>>> your money connecting to.  (Metcalfe's Law.)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That's not what it looked like exactly 10 years ago, and one of the
> > >>>> major contributors to that was Gore, and the programs he mentions
> > >>>> championing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Asterisk wouldn't exist in anything like it's current form had the
> > >>>> Internet not Gone Commercial, since one of its major selling points is
> > >>>> it's ability to connect with all the commercial VoIP providers we see
> > >>>> on -biz... who wouldn't have a network to get your packets to them
> > >>>> otherwise.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is he solely responsible?  No.  Did he have lots of help?  Yes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is he correct to use the phrase "create the Internet" to imply "as we
> > >>>> know it today"?  Clearly, there's a disagreement here.  But let's not
> > >>>> fight that battle over the definition of "is", 'k?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> -- jra
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