[asterisk-biz] Re: OT: Gore Still Ahead

Wed Oct 4 20:44:45 MST 2006

  CF,

    See, that goes to show you that Democrats return punches too, <g>, <g>

CS


It would be interesting to know if this is also part of the
republicans smearing campaigns:
"On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange
between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of
18."
Now look at this:
http://drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm

On 10/3/06, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
>
>    Look people, only one thing I am going to say to rest my case:
>
>      Gas prices are down because it is election year.
>
>    Don't take my word for it, just wait until January 2007 when the
> republicans are comfortably seating on their congressional chairs,
> that's when gas prices will "conviniently" go back to the sky.
>
>    And don't tell me this kind of abuse doesn't deserve to be condenmed
> in this asterisk-biz forum or any other... That's it, I'll turn this
> page and not continue this thread, but go ahead and vote for who you
> want and get what you deserve...
>
> CS
>
>
> Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> >       A Republican Congressman child molester is helped by the
Republicans
> > running the House to keep meeting children to molest for months or years
> > while basing his career on "protecting children from Internet
> > molesters". You're one of those demented Republicans who can only whine
> > about how "Democrats will benefit from this, so it must somehow be their
> > fault". Instead of just accepting that your Republicans conspired to
> > help this pervert molest children. No, you're so dirty that you've got
> > to dig up this finally-dead OT thread, to *spin for the molesters* by
> > claiming Democrats are just "smearing". Typical kneejerk Republican
> > projection of your own worst fears about yourself onto your targets.
> >
> >       Who cares what you think about anything, except maybe *Asterisk
> > business*? Which doesn't necessarily require any conscience, though when
> > it does, we should remember just what you think is important. Protecting
> > your child molester Republicans from losing their Congressional seats.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 17:50 -0400, C F wrote:
> >> Interesting you say that, since it appears the Dems are doing that now:
> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20061002/bs_ibd_ibd/2006102issues01
> >>
> >> On 9/28/06, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
> >>>    Let me add to this interesting thread, that it is in the interest of
> >>> the present administration to discredit anything and anyone from the
> >>> Clinton administration... the reason is because the last thing they
want
> >>> is to have the Clintons back in the White House... be aware of smearing
> >>> campaigns circulating on the Internet and the media nowadays...
> >>>
> >>> CS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:39:41AM -0400, C F wrote:
> >>>>>>>                                                    Since the whole
> >>>>>>> paragraph only speaks about the Intenet in that one sentence (I
took
> >>>>>>> the initiative.....), then it's NOT out of context to say that he
> >>>>>>> claimed he invented the Internet.
> >>>>>> Again, no, it's not out of context.  It's merely incorrect.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If one chooses to interpret Gore's usage of "Internet" to mean "the
> >>>>>> commercial Internet that we have today", then yes, the
initiatives he
> >>>>>> worked on, including NREN, probably had a lot to do with it.
> >>>>> OK, I'm listening, since this was on TV in English, can you explain
> >>>>> what other meaning Internet has in the English language?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is my source, which disagrees with your English interpretation
> >>>>> for the word Internet:
> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
> >>>> "The Internet is the largest equivalence class in the reflexive
> >>>> transitive symmetric closure of the relationship "can be reached by an
> >>>> IP packet from".
> >>>> --Seth Breidbart
> >>>>
> >>>> But for our purposes here, The Internet is a large commercial network
> >>>> service utility to which you can purchase access from any number of
> >>>> competing vendors, which can carry any traffic, whether commercial or
> >>>> not, and which has a sufficiently large number of service providers
(and
> >>>> potential clients) attached to it to make it a worthwhile thing to
spend
> >>>> your money connecting to.  (Metcalfe's Law.)
> >>>>
> >>>> That's not what it looked like exactly 10 years ago, and one of the
> >>>> major contributors to that was Gore, and the programs he mentions
> >>>> championing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Asterisk wouldn't exist in anything like it's current form had the
> >>>> Internet not Gone Commercial, since one of its major selling points is
> >>>> it's ability to connect with all the commercial VoIP providers we see
> >>>> on -biz... who wouldn't have a network to get your packets to them
> >>>> otherwise.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is he solely responsible?  No.  Did he have lots of help?  Yes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is he correct to use the phrase "create the Internet" to imply "as we
> >>>> know it today"?  Clearly, there's a disagreement here.  But let's not
> >>>> fight that battle over the definition of "is", 'k?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> -- jra
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