[asterisk-biz] Re: OT: Gore Still Ahead

[C F]

Interesting you say that, since it appears the Dems are doing that now:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20061002/bs_ibd_ibd/2006102issues01

On 9/28/06, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
>
>    Let me add to this interesting thread, that it is in the interest of
> the present administration to discredit anything and anyone from the
> Clinton administration... the reason is because the last thing they want
> is to have the Clintons back in the White House... be aware of smearing
> campaigns circulating on the Internet and the media nowadays...
>
> CS
>
>
>
> Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:39:41AM -0400, C F wrote:
> >>>>                                                    Since the whole
> >>>> paragraph only speaks about the Intenet in that one sentence (I took
> >>>> the initiative.....), then it's NOT out of context to say that he
> >>>> claimed he invented the Internet.
> >>> Again, no, it's not out of context.  It's merely incorrect.
> >>>
> >>> If one chooses to interpret Gore's usage of "Internet" to mean "the
> >>> commercial Internet that we have today", then yes, the initiatives he
> >>> worked on, including NREN, probably had a lot to do with it.
> >> OK, I'm listening, since this was on TV in English, can you explain
> >> what other meaning Internet has in the English language?
> >>
> >> This is my source, which disagrees with your English interpretation
> >> for the word Internet:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
> >
> > "The Internet is the largest equivalence class in the reflexive
> > transitive symmetric closure of the relationship "can be reached by an
> > IP packet from".
> > --Seth Breidbart
> >
> > But for our purposes here, The Internet is a large commercial network
> > service utility to which you can purchase access from any number of
> > competing vendors, which can carry any traffic, whether commercial or
> > not, and which has a sufficiently large number of service providers (and
> > potential clients) attached to it to make it a worthwhile thing to spend
> > your money connecting to.  (Metcalfe's Law.)
> >
> > That's not what it looked like exactly 10 years ago, and one of the
> > major contributors to that was Gore, and the programs he mentions
> > championing.
> >
> > Asterisk wouldn't exist in anything like it's current form had the
> > Internet not Gone Commercial, since one of its major selling points is
> > it's ability to connect with all the commercial VoIP providers we see
> > on -biz... who wouldn't have a network to get your packets to them
> > otherwise.
> >
> > Is he solely responsible?  No.  Did he have lots of help?  Yes.
> >
> > Is he correct to use the phrase "create the Internet" to imply "as we
> > know it today"?  Clearly, there's a disagreement here.  But let's not
> > fight that battle over the definition of "is", 'k?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
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