[asterisk-biz] 911

Wed Mar 8 18:04:08 MST 2006

On 3/8/06, Tim Booth <tbooth at visioncom.us> wrote:
> First of all I'm not asking you to promote my company, we sell service
> to our existing clients and that's fine for us now. I like knowing that
> if my clients pick up their line and has to dial 911 it's going to work.

Well thats not what you wrote in the prevoius emails. You were asking
about putting employees at risk.

> Fumbling around for the extra 30 seconds to make sure you're on a POTS
> line could in some cases mean life or death. I'm done with this subject;
> I just wanted to know what companies have a good solution without
> utilizing loop holes in the FCC ruling.

Stop calling them loop holes, when they are clearly the intention of
the FCC. I believe it's companies like yours that are exploiting loop
holes in the system, since we all know that the solutions you (and
others) provide to your customers only work ~70%, which is clearly NOT
what the FCC intended, but because you did everything the FCC requires
on paper you are compliant, which in other words defines a loop hole.

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> Tim Booth
> President
> VisionCom
> 207-828-4600
> Office VoIP 207-618-1419
> WIFI VoIP  207-321-2789
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:56 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] 911
>
> On 3/7/06, Tim Booth <tbooth at visioncom.us> wrote:
> > I agree with you completely. It sound like there are loop holes and
> many
>
> Wrong, these are not loop holes but what the FCC intended.
>
> > providers can call their solution compliant. Personally speaking my
>
> Again, wrong, you should have said: 'many providers are compliant'.
> Anyhow, I'm glad you are not on the FCC board.
>
> > company will not put any outbound DID into service unless my client
> can
> > use it in the event of an emergency.  To be successful in selling
>
> Good for you.
>
> > "voip-dialtone" the client wants it to be just like their PSTN lines
> at
> > a lower flat rate. Would you put your employees life's in jeopardy to
> > save 15 bucks a month? I wouldn't.
>
> No, I would spend the training to tell them they have to use the
> backup phone that is connected to POTS, and NO I wouldn't tell them to
> get VoIP by your company.
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> >
> > Tim Booth
> > President
> > VisionCom
> > 207-828-4600
> > Office VoIP 207-618-1419
> > WIFI VoIP  207-321-2789
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Osterberg
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:21 AM
> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] 911
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> > On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, C F wrote:
> > > No not at all, business decisions have nothing to do with being
> > > compliant, as stated in previous emails. It is very easy to be
> > > compliant, since if you are not what the FCC calls a provider for
> > > "Interconnected VoIP service" you are already compliant.
> >
> > The Intent was to improve access to emergency services on devices the
> > general public might mistake for a telephone. I don't care if it's
> legal
> >
> > or not, as a VoIP provider to the public, (if that's what you want to
> > do)
> > you should be working on a solution. Even non US firms should consider
> > the
> > 'needs' of their customers and work solutions out.
> >
> > Our company had a working E911 solution from day one (At least for
> fixed
> >
> > location customers where we had trunking to a local CLEC)
> > Nomadic users are another problem.
> >
> > At least put some effort into it.
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> > -=I supose I should plug my company here=-
> >    Sound Choice Communications LLC
> >     Minneapolis / StPaul - Minnesota
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