[asterisk-biz] Paris DID, 15 Cents Per Month Per Number

[Mark]

Pehaps you should read the pricing in the Posts and understand that it 
is FALSE ADVERTISING

Paulo Mannheimer wrote:

>I really don't understand why people keep bashing DIDx so much on this
>list.
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>All my business contacts with them was corteous and straightforward. 
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>PHM
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of trixter aka
>Bret McDanel
>Sent: terça-feira, 31 de janeiro de 2006 03:15
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Paris DID, 15 Cents Per Month Per Number
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>On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 23:49 -0600, Mark wrote:
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>>Bret, If I told you I wanted to sell XXX termination for 10,000 
>>dollars
>>that you wanted to buy, how would you feel if at the time to pay  I
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>>there was also a 1,000 commission? Why would I NOT include that in the
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>>advertised price? That is an HONEST business practice. The price 
>>NORMALLY includes all costs.
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>That is a cultural difference.  In america for example a lot of fees are
>tacked on after, sales tax, postage and packing, etc.  When I lived in
>Edinburgh everything was all incl, VAT (basically the same thing as
>sales tax), etc.  Vonage and Broadvoice both advertise one price and
>tack on fees like taxes and other "regulatory" fees (ie regulations say
>they can but dont have to charge for thseo things).  In america its
>actually very common to have an advertised price not include everything,
>didx did more than most companies by stating there was additional fees,
>without a tiny asterisk that goes to fine print saying there are
>additional costs.
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>>And, yes there IS a need to point these inconsistencies out in these
>>posts and what is on their web site. I will go out on a limb here and 
>>say DIDx and companies are engaging in DISHONEST business practices! 
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>What exactly is dishonest about having their faq state their return
>policy (which is different from what you depicted and something that has
>changed since they first started last year).  What is dishonest about
>stating there are additional fees and then charging those additional
>fees they previously declared?
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>It appears to me that you are just looking for an excuse to bad mouth a
>company and/or person for some perceived harm that befell you, and in
>doing so deviated from the reality of the situation.  
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>If you personally have a problem with rehan and/or didx please put him
>on ignore (most every mail program allows you to do this).  Then you
>wont see anything again.  The other alternative is to just let it go, it
>isnt required to respond to every post made.  You have expressed your
>feelings, anything beyond this point serves no meaningful purpose.  It
>just adds noise to the list.  
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>Granted I have no individual right to demand anyone to do anything on
>this list one way or the other, and I have the power to ignore (either
>mentally or automated which is a good choice for people with no self
>control), but I can request.  I dont respond to every post, normally
>this stuff goes away quickly, however lately the volume seems to be
>increasing.
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>Keep in mind this is the business list and it is 100% appropriate for
>people to post advertisements here for their related services.  Further
>it is appropriate for them to post in the culture they are familiar
>with, without what appears to be thinly veiled racial attacks.  This is
>a buniess list, as in professionals, I am requesting a little
>professionalism.  
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>In my opinion people that constantly attack someone do not appear
>professional, especially when they start tossing in racial attacks.
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>[racial attack deleted]
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>>We need to weed out the bad seed that is on this list. If we do not,
>>opportunisits and scammers will control this list. At least if we are 
>>making it a point to show their shortcomings, then new arrivals to
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>this 
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>>list may be saved some grief.  It was someome on this list months ago 
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>That is quite a task you have undertaken to control the flow of
>information and decide who can and cannot sell on this list.  Might I
>ask what your qualifications are for censorship on this list? Censorship
>comes in many forms, including blatently misrepresenting facts to try to
>pressure someone off the list.  Of course to intentionally misrepresent
>facts in an attempt to harm a business can also be illegal in some
>jurisdictions, I personally cant agree with illegal tactics to censor
>someone simply becuase I dont like them.
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>>well. The truth is Rehan and company are here to stay. I think if they
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>The only businesses that are here to stay as you put it are the ones
>that actually sell a product and make money at it.  That is the sign of
>a successful business.  Successful businesses in a service industry only
>remain successful in the long term if they satisfy their customers.
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>Either they are here to stay or they will go away becuase no one buys
>their service.  If their service is as bad as you claim they will surely
>go under soon, they cant keep servers and other things operating without
>revenue.  If however they are as you say here to stay then they must be
>doing something right.  You cant really have it both ways, this is
>fairly simple economics.
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>I think I have expressed myself completly on this issue, unless there
>are new valid points raised I wont be responding to this thread, so dont
>expect one.  If anyone reading this couldnt tell from above I do not
>consider racial attacks valid points, so those certainly will not cause
>me to respond.
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