[asterisk-biz] Re: asterisk-biz Digest, Vol 25, Issue 103

Bob Smith bureau at inmte.com
Tue Aug 29 18:27:40 MST 2006 

perl ninja wrote:
> it would be kinda nice to find out if you guys could help me with a
> ANI Spoofing script or so i'm willing to pay ... just name you're
> price :p
>
> On 8/29/06, asterisk-biz-request at lists.digium.com
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Voip plus conference bridge? (Henry J. Cobb)
>> 2. USF Recovery Fee (Sas Sunder)
>> 3. Re: Asterisk Tools (Andrew Latham)
>> 4. RE: USF Recovery Fee (jay kordic)
>> 5. Asterisk spanish pre-recorded voice prompts. (Erick Perez)
>> 6. RE: Asterisk Tools (Trixter Aka Bret McDanel)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:30:33 -0500 (CDT)
>> From: "Henry J. Cobb" <hcobb at io.com>
>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Voip plus conference bridge?
>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>> Message-ID: <34542.68.122.234.217.1156883433.squirrel at webmail.io.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> Does anybody know of a Voip provider who includes a conference bridge 
>> that
>> can work with Vicidial?
>>
>> We'd like to keep the dialer itself local, because we will only need to
>> conferece/transfer a small fraction of the total calls.
>>
>> -HJC
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:35:04 -0300
>> From: "Sas Sunder" <tofindout2006 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USF Recovery Fee
>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>> Message-ID: <BAY7-F2290AF159F0AD782E13FF0BB390 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are being charged a USF recovery fee recently. Do all carriers 
>> regardless
>> ofl ocation have to pay this fee if sending traffic to US providers? 
>> Or is
>> this charged only by some US providers?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Sas
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Deck to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out 
>> Sympatico /
>> MSN Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas.
>> http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/category/shp/?bCatID=11,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081801 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:39:22 -0400
>> From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <c39c115d0608291339k5e68fd5dj7627f30c8b3feae7 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Bret
>>
>> The 2600 magazine is a 180 look at some topics, sometimes it can open
>> your eyes thus educational. They have some silly work I will grant
>> that but by and large some of the work makes me think about systems in
>> new ways.
>>
>> The question to continue on this topic is what the regulators could
>> bring to the carriers to control this. What type of real or just buzz
>> wordy method could they select when presured by congressional
>> oversight(that was funny..).
>>
>> Keyed or signed CPE devices
>> Costly switch replacement or certification
>> Auditing
>> New technology not ment for communications
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>> > 2600 is hardly educational but this isn't the place for that. I did 
>> qualify that the btn could be altered however not norrmally by the 
>> end user. It was unclear to me that you ever meant the btn because I 
>> didn't see mention initially to it.
>> >
>> > It doesn't even take social engineering, many providers let you 
>> pick it (but its supposd to be a number that is yours) which lets you 
>> pick one that is not in a given state you do traffic to so its all 
>> interstate and usually intercarrier compensation is less, thus the 
>> cost is less for the call.
>> >
>> > Some have used an alaska or hawaii number for us48/conus traffic 
>> others have used 2 different states and routed traffic so its all 
>> interstate. This is really popular from a pedestrian side of things 
>> with tollfrees, have '2' call centers (even if virtual) in different 
>> states and make sure its all intersstate since, especially since some 
>> states origination charge exceeds 3-4 cents.
>> >
>> > Back to btn spoofing, its often easier to just create phantom 
>> traffic which will still have potentially user supplied caller 
>> id/ani. Generally it takes the same access, although phantom traffic 
>> is a hot button now.
>> >
>> > Since the btn isn't seen by many people, you gotta ask why it 
>> matters, systems often use caller id/ani instead (ie banks).
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> > Sent: 8/29/06 11:12 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> >
>> > Bret
>> >
>> > Correct, what I am discussing is systems which alter the BTN, ANI and
>> > CallerID during a call switch which could be done via some social
>> > engineering calls or via automated methods. Please refer to the many
>> > educational articles in the 2600 magazine.
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>> > > Most billing isn't done via ani on the pstn but the btn or 
>> billing telephone number which can be done separate from ani.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
>> > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> > > Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> > >
>> > > it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link. 
>> However it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it 
>> messes with billing etc. I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
>> > >
>> > > Mog
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
>> > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
>> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> > >
>> > > 1. Buy a T1
>> > > 2. Setup
>> > > 3......
>> > >
>> > > I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
>> > > FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on 
>> copper
>> > > and fiber connections.
>> > >
>> > > As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
>> > > other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
>> > > unreliable the system currently is. Will circuit ID lookups 
>> attach an
>> > > ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
>> > > installations...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that 
>> CallerID
>> > > > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as 
>> purolator and
>> > > > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the 
>> callers
>> > > > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
>> > > > possible..
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Sean
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>> > > Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh)
>> > > lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
>> > > If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
>> > > Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
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>> > lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
>> > If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
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>> Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh)
>> lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
>> If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
>> Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
>> ---
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:41:03 -0700
>> From: "jay kordic" <jay at thehorizongroup.biz>
>> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] USF Recovery Fee
>> To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Message-ID: <002501c6cbab$71fadd30$55cbbe44 at jk88905>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> It is mandatory that carriers start paying the USF recovery fee 
>> (6.5-6.8%)
>> no later than 10/1/06.If they are paying that fee,they will be 
>> passing it
>> along to you.
>>
>> Jay Kordic
>> The Horizon Group
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sas Sunder
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM
>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USF Recovery Fee
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are being charged a USF recovery fee recently. Do all carriers 
>> regardless
>>
>> ofl ocation have to pay this fee if sending traffic to US providers? 
>> Or is
>> this charged only by some US providers?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Sas
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Deck to dock: outfit your cottage in stylish comfort. Check out 
>> Sympatico /
>> MSN Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas.
>> http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/category/shp/?bCatID=11,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata 
>>
>> =081801
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:55:34 -0500
>> From: "Erick Perez" <eaperezh at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk spanish pre-recorded voice prompts.
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <d08ac7230608291355k49bcecbfp6e019c58d0cf498a at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi, I need the asterisk pre-recorded english voice prompts in 
>> spanish. Latin
>> american spanish.
>> Hopefully from Mexico, Colombia or Venezuela. Female Voice.
>> No Spain, chile or argentina spanish prompts please.
>> the reason is the term used for some phone digits and other words.
>>
>> Is there any company that has them? and what price?
>>
>> Hola, Agradezco si me pueden proporcionar el precio y compa?ia donde
>> adquirir los mensajes pre-grabados de asterisk, en espa?ol 
>> latinoamericano.
>> Mexico, Colombia o Venezuela.
>>
>> La razon es que en latinoamerica el simbolo de # es la "tecla 
>> numeral" y no
>> "almohadilla" como le dicen en espa?a u otros paises de habla hispana.
>> Tambien usamos "computador" y no "ordenador".
>>
>> Obviamente, el latioamericano entendera las diferencias.
>>
>> -- 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> Erick Perez
>> Panama Sistemas
>> Integradores de Telefonia IP y Soluciones Para Centros de Datos
>> Panama, Republica de Panama
>> Cel Panama. +(507) 6694-4780
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:03:28 -0700
>> From: Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
>> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060829210322.5773AC74D at lists.digium.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> When you start playing games with btns you are also close to playing 
>> intercarrier compensation games. Now this may become a moot point if 
>> carriers take the lead of mci who marks all tollfree traffic where 
>> one endpoint is voip as interstate (read cheaper) for copensation 
>> purposes. Until all carriers do that carriers would be more concerned 
>> with getting paid what they hink they should, ie preventing 
>> shenanigans that confuse the compensation amounts.
>>
>> To this end, without federal oversight, carriers have used contracts 
>> and lawsuits to prevent mass abuse. See the sbc v att case a few 
>> years ago where att was shorting sbc $100 million a year and note 
>> that sbc won in court.
>>
>> That is likely the most formidable method of controlling games.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Sent: 8/29/06 1:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>>
>> Bret
>>
>> The 2600 magazine is a 180 look at some topics, sometimes it can open
>> your eyes thus educational. They have some silly work I will grant
>> that but by and large some of the work makes me think about systems in
>> new ways.
>>
>> The question to continue on this topic is what the regulators could
>> bring to the carriers to control this. What type of real or just buzz
>> wordy method could they select when presured by congressional
>> oversight(that was funny..).
>>
>> Keyed or signed CPE devices
>> Costly switch replacement or certification
>> Auditing
>> New technology not ment for communications
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>> > 2600 is hardly educational but this isn't the place for that. I did 
>> qualify that the btn could be altered however not norrmally by the 
>> end user. It was unclear to me that you ever meant the btn because I 
>> didn't see mention initially to it.
>> >
>> > It doesn't even take social engineering, many providers let you 
>> pick it (but its supposd to be a number that is yours) which lets you 
>> pick one that is not in a given state you do traffic to so its all 
>> interstate and usually intercarrier compensation is less, thus the 
>> cost is less for the call.
>> >
>> > Some have used an alaska or hawaii number for us48/conus traffic 
>> others have used 2 different states and routed traffic so its all 
>> interstate. This is really popular from a pedestrian side of things 
>> with tollfrees, have '2' call centers (even if virtual) in different 
>> states and make sure its all intersstate since, especially since some 
>> states origination charge exceeds 3-4 cents.
>> >
>> > Back to btn spoofing, its often easier to just create phantom 
>> traffic which will still have potentially user supplied caller 
>> id/ani. Generally it takes the same access, although phantom traffic 
>> is a hot button now.
>> >
>> > Since the btn isn't seen by many people, you gotta ask why it 
>> matters, systems often use caller id/ani instead (ie banks).
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> > Sent: 8/29/06 11:12 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> >
>> > Bret
>> >
>> > Correct, what I am discussing is systems which alter the BTN, ANI and
>> > CallerID during a call switch which could be done via some social
>> > engineering calls or via automated methods. Please refer to the many
>> > educational articles in the 2600 magazine.
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>> > > Most billing isn't done via ani on the pstn but the btn or 
>> billing telephone number which can be done separate from ani.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
>> > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> > > Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> > >
>> > > it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link. 
>> However it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it 
>> messes with billing etc. I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
>> > >
>> > > Mog
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
>> > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion 
>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
>> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>> > >
>> > > 1. Buy a T1
>> > > 2. Setup
>> > > 3......
>> > >
>> > > I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
>> > > FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on 
>> copper
>> > > and fiber connections.
>> > >
>> > > As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
>> > > other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
>> > > unreliable the system currently is. Will circuit ID lookups 
>> attach an
>> > > ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
>> > > installations...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Hello,
>> > > > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that 
>> CallerID
>> > > > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as 
>> purolator and
>> > > > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the 
>> callers
>> > > > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
>> > > > possible..
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Sean
>> > > > _______________________________________________
>> > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --
>> > > >
>> > > > asterisk-biz mailing list
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>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > ---
>> > > Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh)
>> > > lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
>> > > If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
>> > > Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
>> > > ---
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > >
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>> > Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh)
>> > lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
>> > If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
>> > Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
>> > ---
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>> >
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>> Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh)
>> lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
>> If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
>> Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
>> ---
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one get out of here its not a kiddie hacking forum..

two. try to keep this regarding asterisk

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