[asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools

Tue Aug 29 13:17:36 MST 2006

2600 is hardly educational but this isn't  the place for that.  I did qualify that the btn could be altered however not norrmally by the end user. It was unclear to me that you ever meant the btn because I didn't see mention initially to it.

It doesn't even take social engineering, many providers let you pick it (but its supposd to be a number that is yours) which lets you pick one that is not in a given state you do traffic to so its all interstate and usually intercarrier compensation is less, thus the cost is less for the call.

Some have used an alaska or hawaii number for us48/conus traffic others have used 2 different states and routed traffic so its all interstate.  This is really popular from a pedestrian side of things with tollfrees, have '2' call centers (even if virtual) in different states and make sure its all intersstate since, especially since some states origination charge exceeds 3-4 cents.

Back to btn spoofing, its often easier to just create phantom traffic which will still have potentially user supplied caller id/ani.  Generally it takes the same access, although phantom traffic is a hot button now.

Since the btn isn't  seen by many people, you gotta ask why it matters, systems often use caller id/ani instead (ie banks).

-----Original Message-----
From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
Sent: 8/29/06 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools

Bret

Correct, what I am discussing is systems which alter the BTN, ANI and
CallerID during a call switch which could be done via some social
engineering calls or via automated methods.  Please refer to the many
educational articles in the 2600 magazine.

Andrew

On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> Most billing isn't  done via ani on the pstn but the btn or billing telephone number which can be done separate from ani.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
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> it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link.  However it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing etc.  I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
>
> Mog
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
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> 1. Buy a T1
> 2. Setup
> 3......
>
> I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
> FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
> and fiber connections.
>
> As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
> other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
> unreliable the system currently is.  Will circuit ID lookups attach an
> ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
> installations...
>
>
>
> On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> > possible..
> >
> >
> > Sean
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