: [Asterisk-biz] Patent lawyers?

[Dean Collins]

Simple answer is, ask them for their license terms in advance with the terms "without an admission of liability", try to negotiate them down to at least half of what they are asking for (generally the lower the better).

When they refuse to budge say, thanks but no thanks and then invest the money in legal representation.

There's not much you can really do about this, it comes with the price of success.

Cheers,
Dean


> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Alex Pui
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 11:42 PM
> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
> Subject: RE: : [Asterisk-biz] Patent lawyers?
> 
> The rule of game of patent is like this :
> 
> You can't patent anything in the public domain, therefore you can't patent
> "calling mom" as many people have done that before. You can only patent
> that
> either as "improvement" ( now you find a way to call your mom "mom"and she
> will earn a dollar which I assume nobody has done that before, then this
> is
> an invention) or in different application (such as calling you wife "mom"
> and she will mad at you anymore ---assuming nobody out there has done
> that)
> then you will have a patent, and now anybody wants to use your application
> has to pay you a license.
> 
> In IT, people knows patent laws (of course abundance chasers) might file
> plenty patents which do not have a real application in mind. The patent
> reviewers are base on the rule that as long as it is an application that
> has
> not filed patent before and it is not in the public domain as far as they
> know, they will grant the patent.
> 
> In most cases, I found those patents without a real application in place
> is
> easy to find its loophole and to get around it, the tricky part of this
> game
> is you have to spend over $100K to prove that the patent is not related to
> your real application, so small guys will easily get caught.
> 
> I don't pretend to be the expert but this is what I learned in a hard way.
> 
> Alex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: June 1, 2005 9:44 AM
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> Subject: re:: [Asterisk-biz] Patent lawyers?
> 
> ok well
> 
> 
> "
> Founded in 1995, j2 Global Communications, Inc., provides outsourced,
> value-added messaging and communications services to individuals and
> businesses around the world. j2
> "
> 
> 
> that would mean anycompany founed before 1995 could take over thsoe patent
> if they can show they develed them? no ?
> 
> you know thats like that dumbass that said he patented the www protocol..
> 
> wth ?
> 
> www protocol.. and me that was thinking www is an alias for TCP protocol
> running on port 80..
> 
> hey i was born in '73.. and i spoke the word mom  before all others
> whospoke it after me.. too bad i didnt patent that...
> 
> and too bad im not 99 years old to patent it now..
> 
> 
> bah im surely wrong anyhow
> 
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