[Asterisk-biz] Patent lawyers?

[Race Vanderdecken]

My view is "they" are just trying to shake you down.

Remember that a Patent has no value if it depends on another patent to
make it work.

These patents, I my review, after having read them, www.uspto.gov, are
like the pencil with an eraser patent.

Faber invented our "lead" pencil. Some one else invented the eraser on a
pencil. But the eraser inventor can not make pencils with erasers on
them because he does not have the pencil patent. His improvement has no
value other then the paper

While it may look like he has made an improvement, the eraser, his
invention is worthless without the original pencil patent license.

Seems that people like to "improve" patents and then claim the entire
invention for themselves.

A good patent lawyer will shut them off quickly. Look for one on the
USPTO site, http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/oed/roster/

Is the link for registered patent attorneys. Here is a list of Georgia
Law Firms.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/oed/roster/region/att-GA.txt

Race "the tyrant" Vanderdecken

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Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:19 PM
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On May 31, 2005, at 6:19 PM, Michael Welter wrote:

> Brian West wrote:
>
>> Anyone know a really good patent lawyers... Here are a list of   
>> patents we have been accused of violating: (And yes we run  
>> Asterisk +spandsp)
>> 5675507 - Message storage and delivery system (voicemail)
>> 6208638 - Method and apparatus for transmission and retrieval of   
>> facsimile and
>>             audio messages over a circuit or packet switched  
>> network  (spandsp sending faxes via email)
>> 6350066 - Systems and methods for storing, delivering, and  
>> managing  messages (think vmail.cgi)
>> 6564321 - Systems and methods for storing, delivering, and  
>> managing  messages (again vmail.cgi)
>> 6857074 - Systems and methods for storing, delivering, and  
>> managing  messages (same as the other two)
>> 6597688 - Scalable architecture for transmission of messages over  
>> a  network (usage with spandsp)
>> Non-Asterisk Related:
>> 6073165 -Filtering computer network messages directed to a user's  
>> e- mail box based on user defined filters, and forwarding a  
>> filtered  message to the user's receiver
>> Some of these patents are just silly and could apply to ANY  
>> voicemail  or messaging system on the planet even email.  We face  
>> a "real" legal  battle with these patents in question.. putting  
>> this out here because  it could have an effect on anyone offering  
>> services be it voicemail  or fax using Asterisk.
>>
> First, who is the accuser?  Let's immediately terminate any and all  
> business relationships with them.
>
> Second, why did they pick on you, Brian?  Are you a large player?
>
> Third, you'll either have to roll over or fight them.  Do you have  
> the resources?  Legal defense fund?
>
>
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