[Asterisk-biz] Large volume inbound US provider request

[alex at pilosoft.com]

Well, this is getting silly, I'm sure the casual reader of the list will
be able to draw their own inferences. Response inline.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote:

> > a) I did not say access charges don't exist. Read the email. I said
> > recip is almost gone, and where it exists, it is in the range of
> > 0.05c/minute.  (as in, 1/20th of a penny).
> > 
> I asked about access charges you said they didnt exist.  It cant be any
> more clear than that.  But hey if you feel the need to defend your
> stupidity after the fact by all means, but please try and learn
> something.
Read the email. I said, and I quote: "Nobody really has recips 
anymore [...]". 

> > b) Rural carriers operate by entirely different rules from the rest.
> > You were looking for a CLEC to give you PRIs. By definition, rural
> > carrier *is* an ILEC. Please do not try to confuse issues.
> > 
> Those were only brought up becuase you proved that you didnt know basic
> telephony.  If you read the original email you will see I never
> mentioned a rural telephone company it was only after your 'you are on
> crack' comment that I brought that up.
> 
> Had you not insisted that access charges were nonexistant in the first
> place and responded later with 'you are on crack' I would not have
> brought them up.  Nice how you combine the 3rd email with the first to
> prove your point.  Too bad you really dont know anything about what you
> are talking about as indicated by your utter lack of understanding on
> the issues from even this morning.
Woot, namecalling galore. 
> 
> > c) You wanted a CLEC with recip - talk about clecs who still have
> > recip. Don't bring up rural ILECs' access tariffs.
> > 
> if you read the original email I fiurst said access charge, I appended
> reciprocol compensation becuase many people who claim to know telephony
> basics dont know anything about what I am talking about and I didnt want
> to have to explain it, but you forced me to explain it to you by
> insisting that you didnt know what you were talking about.
It is *reciproCAL*. 

> > d) Notwithstanding the above, since you made claims to contrary:
> > Access tariff by definition is LD (anything going between rate
> > centers) and is specified in the tariffs. Access tariff may be
> > different for intralata / intrastate / interstate.  Reciprocal
> > compensation is by definition local (intra-rate-center), is
> > individually negotiated and specified in ICA.  Arguing otherwise is
> > pointless.
> > 
> So you are saying there are no access charges for local calls?  Or are
> you just implying that but not actually trying to say it so you can have
> an out later on when you try to jumble the emails up?
There are no access fees for intra-rate-center calls, correct. If there 
were, they would be called reciprocal compensation.

-alex