[Asterisk-biz] bellster.net - GREAT advance

[John A. Lestoni]

> >Surely VOIP will lead to more regulation, but a SWAT commando kicking
> >my door because somebody used my line to make harrassing calls ...?
> >Hmmm, too much I think ... same thing can happen for terminating traffic
> >for
> >another carrier if you are a VOIP shop ...
> >Bellster approach can be revolutionary, I think, no time for FUD.
> >Regards
> >John
>
> Except law enforcement has at least some clue of what a telephone company
> is, and *surprise* the idea that a telephone company might not place all
> calls that come out of it.
>
> However, when your normal POTS line lights up and has a death threat for
> someone "important", and happens to mention some other stuff... I wouldn't
> be surprised. Law enforcement generally LOVES the opportunity to show up
> with force.
>
> It's not just FUD. And there definitely should be time for security
thinking
> (well, if the individual running the node cares, that is :)).
>
> -Michael

Law enforcement have high capable technical people working for them, and may
take
into account that you are "lending" your line to other people you don´t
know.
Does it make you a criminal for that ? Surely not.
We as an ISP couldn´t trace back some illegal activity in the past as we
were asked by the law,
and as we collaborate with them, we were never accused of being associate
with the felony ...

- John


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul" <digium-list at 9ux.com>
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] bellster.net - GREAT advance
>
>
> > The really good part is that when you sign up you agree not to eavesdrop
> > or record anything going through your node. It enhances the element of
> > surprise when the heavily-armed SWAT commandos assault you, your loved
> > ones and your premises. By now most law enforcement pros are well aware
> > that people in chat rooms can use hacked computers to mask identity and
> > location. They already know which snail mail addresses are actually mail
> > drops and forwarding services. I doubt that many of them are aware of
> > things like bellster. If anything it could lead to more regulation.
> > There are probably some good reasons why the caller ID display says
> > things like "pay telephone" or "correctional facility". I still remember
> > getting an automated announcement at my office when the collect call was
> > from the county jail. I promptly hung up and revoked all phone access
> > for a certain employee. I guess the next step is to require that relay
> > node operators be registered so the caller ID will say "could be from
> > any a_____e from anywhere on earth".
> >
> > Darren Nickerson wrote:
> >
> > > "skamp" <skamp at arkayinc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> uhmm  im sure if you provide the asterisk logs you can show it
> > >> originated from someone elses IP.... come on now.... though maybe
> > >> problematic, note it can be proven.
> > >
> > >
> > > Okay, but ...
> > >
> > > Imagine local law enforcement calls you (because the complaint falls
> > > within their jurisdiction) about the harrassing phone calls you've
> > > been making. How long do you think it would take you to explain
> > > Asterisk to them, let alone dundi and bellster? How understanding of
> > > your predicament do you think they will be?
> > >
> > > -d