[Asterisk-biz] Linksys WRT54GP2-NA Wireless-G Broadband Routerwith 2 Phone Ports for sale

[steve]

Hi:

The problem is this.  Sipura is the owner of the intellectual property and
they entered into a special contract with Cisco that only provided that
Linksys can sell Sipura's intellectual property as valued added to ISP's
WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTIONS WHATSOEVER.   

Right now there is legal action between both companies.   In short, they are
looking to bury some one.   My answer is quite simple.   WATCH OUT if you
are not a real ISP and you have signed a (Cisco)Linksys contract because
they will FUCK you hard.   Cisco has taken many people to Federal Court and
you can expect the legal bills to start at $100,000.00 for the Northern
District of California.   Think I am kidding you.  Check out some attorneys
in San Francisco or San Jose and ask them what they charge for a federal
case involving Cisco.   I forgot to mention, expect to pay for their
attorneys fees and of course whatever bullshit damages the court awards
these parties.   In short, you will be lucky if the damages are less than
$800,000.00.    

Cisco signed very large contracts with Vonage and several other companies
and they are too large to play games with a small retailer.   

Cisco(Linksys) would love to blame a few small retailer who committed fraud
in order to get Sipura off their backs.   I have heard stories that Linksys
is not getting the software upgrades until this problem is resolved.   Not
sure if that is true or not but that is what I have heard.




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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Roderick
Montgomery
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:47 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Linksys WRT54GP2-NA Wireless-G Broadband
Routerwith 2 Phone Ports for sale

According to Tracy R Reed:
> 
> This is part of what's wrong with "intellectual property" today. It's MINE
> damnit! I bought ??t, I should be able to see it if I want. Imagine if car
> makers wouldn't let you resell your car with any mods or their "value-add"
> services. In almost every case I have run into "value added" means you are
> getting ripped off anyhow.

Linksys probably has a similar sentiment, from a different perspective. The
product is theirs, and they have the right to sell it (or not sell it) as
they see fit. If they require partners to have blue in their logo, or to
ship product only before sunset, or to offer a service along with this
product, they are allowed to do so. They make their own distribution rules,
and as long as they're legal, they don't need to be fair or just in your
judgement. Manufacturers must protect their distribution and partner
channels, and this is one way they do that. I'm not advocating one way or
the other, just showing you that the "it's mine, I can do with it as I
please" street runs both ways.

If you bought it legitimately, Linksys are not going to come take it away
from you. They may, however, choose to sever their relationship with the
company that sold it to you, or direct that company to refrain from selling
more to you. I've worked with Cisco and Cisco products for the past ten
years (Linksys is now a Cisco company), and I've never seen them come after
an end user for something like this. Blatant software license violations,
sure. Channel partners that deliberately bend the rules, of course. An end
user that wants to run a WRT54GP2-NA against Asterisk rather than a
Value-Added Service Provider's network? I seriously doubt it.

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