<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Kevin Larsen <<a href="mailto:kevin.larsen@pioneerballoon.com">kevin.larsen@pioneerballoon.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><tt><font size="2">> From: Paul Albrecht <<a href="mailto:palbrecht@glccom.com">palbrecht@glccom.com</a>></font></tt>
<br><tt><font size="2">> Here’s a link to the minutes: </font></tt><a href="https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/"><tt><font size="2">https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br>
> display/AST/AstriDevCon+2014</font></tt>
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> It has you saying: Leif: we're in a transition, moving from dialplan<br>
> model to external control model. Probably need external application<br>
> to be built for us to move completely away from AMI/AGI.</font></tt>
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> So you’re saying Asterisk is moving away from the dial plan or were
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> you misquoted?</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size="2">Paul,</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size="2">I think you are getting worked up way too early in
this process. This is one comment with only a little bit of context surrounding
it. Such a major change would take quite awhile to make and there would
be plenty of warning before it happens, with plenty of opportunities to
discuss. The dial plan isn't going away tomorrow and if it does ever go
away, there will be plenty of time to work out a transition plan. </font></tt>
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<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Seems like now is as good a time as any to raise these issues, in fact, sooner is better than later because once developers start down a path it’s very difficult to get them change their minds no matter how much sense it makes. The fact that developers are even considering taking away user functionality like the dial plan is in of itself a very serious problem because it demonstrates they don’t see Asterisk from the user perspective.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><tt><font size="2">Looking at the path development has taken, it seems
pretty clear that they have been working towards enabling greater external
control of what Asterisk does, making it the engine that can drive other
media applications. Doesn't mean it can't and won't be used as a traditional
pbx, but to grow what it does will require some changes.</font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size="2">If being a mature part of Asterisk means that something
shouldn't be changed, we should also protest the move from the current
SIP stack to pjsip. There are any number of reasons to deprecate mature
code. It may not be needed or something better may come along. </font></tt>
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<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don’t object to extending the Asterisk user interface or changing Asterisk internals. Do object to is taking away functionality that users expect, are familiar with, and has made the Asterisk project successful.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><tt><font size="2">All I can say is that having experience with a few
versions of Asterisk, it seems to get better and more stable as new versions
come along. Perhaps a bit of faith that they are not trying to kill off
their product simply by having a discussion at a dev conference is in order.</font></tt>
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<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Then your experience is atypical. Asterisk has been unstable for several years as developers have continually shoveled new features into the code base over several releases. That’s not necessary objectionable, it’s even to be expected; however, at some point developers need to turn their attention to less glamorous less exciting things like stability and performance.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><tt><font size="2">Kevin Larsen</font></tt>
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