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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Excellent analysis of the real world.&nbsp;
Start with this, and work out the issues, or go to VOIP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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  color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>Cary</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Fitch<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Wilton Helm<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:33
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial Discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-users]
Maximum cable length for analog phone fromFXS port</span></font><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There are a lot of factors that impact
this.&nbsp; First, CAT 5, while usable is overkill.&nbsp; Cat 3 (otherwise
known as I/O wire) works equally well for voice grade lines.&nbsp; That being
said, for that long a run, a heavier gauge wire would be better.&nbsp; I
believe telcos use 18 &#8211; 22 guage (Cat 5 and Cat 3 are both 26 awg).&nbsp;
This has less resistive loss.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Most FXS or ATA devices use 24 volts or
less for &#8220;battery&#8221;.&nbsp; That works fine for short loops, but
limits the range.&nbsp; A central office POTS port normally uses 48 VDC which
works well to several KM.&nbsp; If the customer is at the end of a long run in
a rural area, they use a &#8220;long line&#8221; card which uses 75
volts.&nbsp; (In rural communities, they often place the line cards in a
roadside &#8220;remote terminal&#8221; and use statistically multiplexed T1s to
make it appear to the switch as a part of it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>That addresses the DC characteristics,
which can be reduced to ohms law.&nbsp; A phone needs around 8 V @ .02 A.&nbsp;
The wire resistance determine the drop (E = IR) and the source voltage determines
whether there will be enough left.&nbsp; The A.C. characteristics are more
complicated.&nbsp; The FXS must do a 2 wire to 4 wire conversion, which
involves matching the impedance of the line.&nbsp; The FXS is generally
designed for relatively short lines, so might not be able to match either the
resistance or capacitance found in a long run.&nbsp; Heavier wire will minimize
this.&nbsp; In addition to that, the transmit side of the 2 wire to 4 wire
circuit must be able to drive the load it sees, and again it may not be designed
with a long run in mind.&nbsp; Finally, COs line cards have the ability to
adjust receive and transmit gain to compensate for sound level losses in long
lines.&nbsp; While this isn&#8217;t routinely done on simple circuits, it is an
option an FXS doesn&#8217;t generally have.&nbsp; In addition, the more gain
that is inserted, the harder it is to balance to 2 wire to 4 wire circuit, and
the more complex it has to be in order to support this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
  color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Wilton</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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