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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can see another way of getting this done. If memory serves me
right, there was a company in the name like “sunrocket”, or “skyrocket” or
whatever. They used to offer service for $100/year unlimited as well. Then about
2 years down the road, they went under. And <b>that was the real deal for them</b>.
The price for the dead company was much higher than for the alive company. Because
all of the VoIP companies like Vonage, etc, was literally fighting for the
customer lists. I think, this might be a possibility too… remember me, what was
the company and who was the founder? Yeah that was SunRocket and been founded
by Joyce Dorris and Paul Erickson.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But the MagicJack has a great deal of connections with XO,
ComCast, talk4free, Ymax communications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Talk4free.com does not have any presence beyond the NS servers
for the YMax communications. Entire YMAX IP range /20 is managed by ComCast,
and the webserver for the management console is on the XO network. The XO has a
PBX’es available for businesses, and they do offer unlimited free local
calling, and free site-to-site. As a result, you actually can get free local
calls when you have enough POP (as a Ymax ,founded by the same guy as a
magicjack, does). And if you get their international rates, you will
understand, that these rates are quite expensive – at least 15%-25% even over
the VoipJet. So when you put all these pieces of the puzzle together +
advertisement during the call + datamining possibility from the calls, this
company has created an enormous asset.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The idea is actually extremely brilliant. I’m just not sure how
legal it is to “snoop” on the call, even if it’s in the agreement. I think, the
law will prevail over any agreement, furthermore in their agreement, not only
you wave the rights for the legal option, but you also set the statue bar for 1
year. And, forget the privacy of the call, here is something more: “By
installing the magicJack Software, you hereby agree to allow magicJack the
option to automatically provide Updates from magicJack and/or its partners'
servers.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And as usual, the “normal use” clause: “If magicJack sees
excessive use, including but not limited to, a customer whose usage is twenty
(20) times more than the average magicJack's customers usage… <all sorts of
bad things may happen>….”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Besides their EULA only says about free calls in US, nothing
about Canada…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Free cheese is only in traps and only for the second mouse</span></i></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>--A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kinjal
Dixit<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 08, 2009 12:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-users] can anybody tell me how Magic jack can be
so cheap ????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>the ads will start once there
is critical mass. the following are the scenarios for ads:<br>
1. when you dial a number, before hearing the ringing, you have to listen to an
ad. the length of the ad would be proportional to the intensity of your
usage... the more you use, the longer the ads.<br>
2. when the caller answers, they will first hear magic jack promo, then they
will hear your voice.<br>
3. the call in interrupted every few minutes to play an ad to both parties.<br>
4. they will give an ad free service if you pay a higher charge.<br>
<br>
I just hope I am not giving the people at magicjack any ideas, but if I am, I
would sure appreciate if they pay me!!<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, <<a
href="mailto:k4rjj@bellsouth.net">k4rjj@bellsouth.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> Never seen any ads except for them. Actually the
thing sits on a server down in the garage so I don't see anything! Darn
thing just works! I bought it as a second line when the wife is using the
copper line to work.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ronny K4RJJ<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
> Or more accurately, they believe they can follow the NetZero or Juno <br>
> model (Free in exchange for ads being pushed to you). <br>
> <br>
> -forrest <br>
> <br>
> C F wrote: <br>
> > They believe they have advertisement revenues. <br>
> > <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Ignacio Ortega A.
wrote: <br>
> > <br>
> >> How Magic Jack can only charge $20 per year? <br>
> >> <br>
> >> do they have a call limit? <br>
> >> do they have a call duration limit or limit of minutes per day?, <br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> Thanks <br>
> >> <br>
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