<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'll look into those devices mentioned.<div><br></div><div>I think that I have one last question... I don't intend to have a hardware fax machine on our end, I really just want it to get to asterisk then email it from there. I know this can be done with hylafax/iaxmodem etc, I actually have gotten that to work intermittently, but supposing I did find an ITSP with t.38 support, what would the steps be on the asterisk to receive that fax? I presume it would just be something like:</div><div><br></div><div><div>exten => _XX.,n,Answer()</div><div>exten => _XX.,n,Wait(3)</div><div>exten => _XX.,n,Set(TIFFFILE=/var/spool/faxes/incoming-fax.tif)</div><div>exten => _XX.,n,ReceiveFAX(${TIFFFILE})</div><div>exten => _XX.,n,Set(<a href="mailto:EMAIL=brendan.martens@crosscomm.net">EMAIL=brendan.martens@crosscomm.net</a>)</div><div>exten => _XX.,n,System('mewencode -e ${TIFFILE} | mail -s fax ${EMAIL}')</div><div>exten => _XX.,n,System('rm ${TIFFILE}')</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>That is what I was trying before I realized that it wouldn't work due to ReceiveFAX() expecting t.38, right? But if it were coming in as t.38 that is all there would be to it?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks once again for taking the time to answer my questions.</div><div><br></div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Brendan Martens</div><div><br></div></div></div></span></div></span></div><div><div>On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:22 AM, Olivier wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/23 Brendan Martens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brendan.martens@crosscomm.net">brendan.martens@crosscomm.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Indeed I am going for pure voip and trying to figure out how to<br> implement t.38, as you suggest.<br> <br> On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Olivier wrote:<br> <br> > I think Brendan is asking about endpoints (how to connect fax<br> > machines to pure VoIP).<br> ><br> > Short answer:<br> > - you could connect standalone T.38-enabled analog gateways to 1.4,<br> <br> Like what? I'm not familiar with this tech, I googled around a bit but<br> didn't come up with much. I think I just don't know the lingo yet. :<br> ( Could you point out one of these?</blockquote><div><br>Linksys PAP2 or 3102 for instance<br>or Patton M-ATA<br><br>In fact, I would say most analog gateways with FXS port should also support T.38.<br>In this case, your setup would be :<br> <br>ISTP ----<xDSL> --- router ---<LAN> ---Asterisk 1.4 ---<LAN> ---analog gateway === fax machine<br><br>As you mentioned, your IP Telephony Service Provider, would have to provide T.30/T.38 conversion so that whenever you're sending or receiving a fax, it would flow in ou or of your network.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> <br> ><br> > - with 1.6, you can also use an analog board inside a server and<br> > connect fax machines to this board.<br> <br> So basically what you're saying is that to do this (convert the analog<br> to t.38) myself I would still need to have analog coming into my<br> asterisk server (which makes sense, but doesn't help me avoid paying<br> for "normal" phone lines)... Sounds to me like in this situation t.38<br> would be purely for getting faxes around on my own asterisk(s) if that<br> became necessary.</blockquote><div><br>What I meant is that, instead of using a separate box for connecting your own fax machine, you could use an analog board such as :<br><br>ITSP ----<xDSL> --- router ---<LAN> ---Asterisk 1.6 w/ FXS board === fax machine<br> <br>Just as previous 1.4 setup, you wouldn't need a separate analog line for faxing.<br>But judging from your question, I would add that it's not common to find an ITSP able to deliver T.38 services (inbound or outbound).<br> And if you want to be able to switch from one provider to another, or simply for simplicity, it's recommended practice to dedicate an analog line to faxing.<br><br>You setup becomes :<br><br>ITSP ----<xDSL> --- router ---<LAN> ---Asterisk 1.6 w/ FXO-FXS board === fax machine<br> ||<br>PSTN ===============================<br> <br>I should also add that if you're having a single fax machine, maybe you should just connect it to an analog line.<br><br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> <br> Which leads me to my other question again, is there some sort of<br> internet service that will do the analog to t.38 conversion for me and<br> then pass the t.38 on to my asterisk server?</blockquote><div> </div><div>In your previous question you said "pure VoIP" which implied you had found such provider. <br>Here you will some answers :<br><a href="http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+T.38">http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+T.38</a><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> <br> <br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com" target="_blank">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> ><br> > asterisk-users mailing list<br> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> > <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users" target="_blank">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> <br> Andrew you mentioned something about sip providers that support t.38?<br> When you say support, do you mean that they have passthrough turned<br> on, or they will actually do an analog t.30 to t.38 conversion for<br> you? That may be what I'm after... If you, or anyone else, know of a<br> provider that does this could you point me in the right direction?<br> <br> Thank you all for your thoughts.<br> <br> Brendan Martens<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com" target="_blank">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> <br> asterisk-users mailing list<br> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users" target="_blank">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> </blockquote></div><br> _______________________________________________<br>-- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br><br>asterisk-users mailing list<br>To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>