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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thank you
all for the great advice. Although fairly new to Asterisk, and relearning
systems administration, it has helped put some perspective on the matter for
me.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [<a
href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>]
On Behalf Of Steve Totaro<br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:21 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] capacity<br>
<br>
I use standard wav (most compatible with players) so about a meg a minute.<br>
<br>
In my experience, most people (users) use their voicemail similar to<br>
email, they keep everything. Especially love struck college kids. I<br>
think Asterisk has a soft limit of 1,000 (maybe it is 999) messages as<br>
the max per inbox that can be changed in source.<br>
<br>
I suppose if you limit the max time allowed and the max inbox limit<br>
it might help but I think your 60GB estimate would be quite low in the<br>
real world.<br>
<br>
BUT, that is based on when I was in college and I was one of the very<br>
few to have my own cell phone (dating myself a bit). So in the real<br>
world, I am not sure how much use the system would actually see.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Steve Totaro<br>
<br>
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Drew Gibson <drew@oanda.com> wrote:<br>
> Our office averages around 1.5MB / mailbox, call it 10MB for rounding.<br>
><br>
> 6,000 x 10MB = 60GB (n'est pas?)<br>
><br>
> 2 x 250GB drives, mirrored, should cover that and the system quite
nicely.<br>
><br>
> regards,<br>
><br>
> Drew<br>
><br>
> Disclaimer: Most of our employees are programmers so probably don't
have<br>
> any friends to call and leave messages! :-)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Steve Totaro wrote:<br>
> > RAID arguments (preference really) aside, 4k - 6k worth of
student<br>
> > voicemails is going to require quite a bit of storage space.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Steve Totaro<br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Drew Gibson
<drew@oanda.com> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> Having ventured high enough and far enough to view the
curvature of the<br>
> >> Earth and having stayed up late enough long enough
(why do disks only<br>
> >> fail at the weekend?) to rebuild and restore RAID 5
sets, I proffer the<br>
> >> following (not so) Humble Opinion .....<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dual power supplies, two thumbs up<br>
> >><br>
> >> but RAID 5 is only good for reducing storage costs on
large volumes of<br>
> >> data. It reduces performance and reliability over
RAID 1. Don't put the<br>
> >> OS on RAID 5 unless you like rebuilding servers from
bare metal. It's<br>
> >> much easier to rebuild and restore the data on RAID 5
sets if the OS is<br>
> >> already up and running.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Your OS and other system critical files (Asterisk)
should be on RAID 1<br>
> >> for performance, redundancy and cost reasons.<br>
> >><br>
> >> More disks = higher cost and higher chance of failure.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Asterisk in general does not need much disk storage.
The minimum drive<br>
> >> size available in a new server tends to be overkill.
Two drives as RAID<br>
> >> 1 gives you redundancy and performance. Adding a
third drive for RAID 5<br>
> >> adds cost, increases complexity and reduces
reliability just to add<br>
> >> storage capacity that you don't really need. (but the
reseller WILL make<br>
> >> more money and impress you with their command of the
big words and<br>
> >> acronyms on the spec sheet.)<br>
> >><br>
> >> If and only if you need to store many hundreds of
gigs of data (eg.<br>
> >> recording a very large volume of calls) then RAID 5
becomes useful (or<br>
> >> RAID 10 or RAID n). You should add this "bulk
storage" IN ADDITION TO<br>
> >> the mirrored pair holding the OS.<br>
> >><br>
> >> regards,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Drew<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Steve Totaro wrote:<br>
> >> > And I can post a link that shows a bunch of guys
think the earth is<br>
> >> > flat with a 5/10 google ranking also (like the
barf guys).<br>
> >> > <a
href="http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm">http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I usually just call my guy at CDW and give him
my needs, he is a<br>
> >> > former techie gone sales. He puts together
a quote and emails it to<br>
> >> > me for approval.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I find HP server are very robust and rock solid
at a decent price<br>
> >> > point (IBM as well). I like the 380
because you get six hot swap scsi<br>
> >> > bays and redundant power supplies in a 2u
profile, also, Digium and<br>
> >> > Sangoma T1 cards have never given me an issue.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Many on this list love Supermicro, I have yet to
try them but I will<br>
> >> > in the near future. I have not heard a
single complaint, only rave<br>
> >> > reviews.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I guess my original point was going for
redundancy as far as storage<br>
> >> > and power supplies with your dollar, not the
fastest proc or maxed out<br>
> >> > RAM that will not be needed. Regardless of
the actual hardware or<br>
> >> > RAID setup, that is the angle I suggest you
take. 4k - 6k students<br>
> >> > will require quite a bit of storage.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Thanks,<br>
> >> > Steve Totaro<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Ron Joffe
<rjoffe@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> >> On Tuesday 18 March 2008 22:12, Steve Totaro
wrote:<br>
> >> >> > For your use, I would go for a
RAID 5<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I would highly recommend against a
raid 5 set. I can give you more details if<br>
> >> >> you are interested, but these guys
have most if it down : www.baarf.com see<br>
> >> >> the link on the left on "why
should I not use Raid 5"<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Ron<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >><br>
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> >> --<br>
> >> Drew Gibson<br>
> >><br>
> >> Systems Administrator<br>
> >> OANDA Corporation<br>
> >> www.oanda.com<br>
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> Drew Gibson<br>
><br>
> Systems Administrator<br>
> OANDA Corporation<br>
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