<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 14, 2008 6:54 PM, Andrew Joakimsen <<a href="mailto:joakimsen@gmail.com">joakimsen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Jan 14, 2008 5:51 PM, Steve Totaro <<a href="mailto:stotaro@totarotechnologies.com">stotaro@totarotechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> Either that or pay for the legal licensing of G729 and get support through
<br>> the appropriate channels. Using the code for anything other than learning<br>> purposes is illegal, not to mention that licensing is quite inexpensive.<br>><br><br></div>Using the code period in a country which recognizes software patents
<br>is an infringement of the patentholder rights. It is not illegal<br>anywhere but it does open you up to a great deal of legal liability.<br>It does not matter if its in production use or not it is still<br>infringement on the patent. Of course unless you have a large
<br>operation, say the size of Vonage, noone's really going to care.. but<br>why are you going to start small with that sort of thinking? You'll<br>never get anywhere.<br></blockquote><div><br>I would argue that it is illegal. The main definition of illegal is "
<span class="ResultBodyBlack">1. <b>against law: </b></span><span class="ResultBody">contravening a specific law, especially a criminal law".<br><a href="http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/illegal.html">http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/illegal.html
</a><br><br>While it may not be against criminal law in the US it can be in France and Austria, in the US it is certainly "against a specific law".<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_law#Law">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_law#Law
</a><br><br>Anyways, buying the license is the right thing to do unless you live where software patent laws are not applicable.<br></span><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I wonder how many Chinese VoIP phones with G729 & G723 codecs have<br>actually licensed the codec?<br><br></blockquote></div><br>Probably none.<br><br><br>Thanks,<br>Steve Totaro<br>