Hi,<br><br>I see the offer from Singtel here: <a href="http://www.singtel.com/mio">http://www.singtel.com/mio</a> . All was based on Nokia handsets.<br>And other offer from Neuf Telecom <a href="http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=79B12F42-9EB5-47ED-9CEF-78BD3D8F7D1A">
http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=79B12F42-9EB5-47ED-9CEF-78BD3D8F7D1A</a><br>They use handset based on Qtopia.<br><br>So it seem that those dual mode phone has come out from the lab. Personally I use an E61. Working.
<br>Does anyone has experience with GreenPhone (Qtopia) from Trolltech?<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/23/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">SIP</b> <<a href="mailto:sip@arcdiv.com">sip@arcdiv.com</a>> wrote:
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">In all honesty, things have NOT moved very far since you last saw them.<br><br>Battery life has, overall, gotten somewhat better. Range is still
<br>abominable in most of them, and they're not, as a general rule, all that<br>easy to deal with. We've mucked about with the Linksys WIP3XX series,<br>the UTStarCom F1000G, and F3000, and the Nokia WiFi-enabled GSM phones
<br>(E60, E61). Of those we've played with, the Nokias are by far the most<br>reliable to connect and remain connected (but perhaps the most annoying<br>to set up).<br><br>For in-office stuff, you're still not liable to beat ATAs + DECT phones.
<br>Outside the office, it really doesn't hurt to try and consolidate your<br>Mobile and SIP service in one of the Nokias that support it (granted, if<br>you're in the US, you'll have to buy them elsewhere, as the US Mobile
<br>providers have done their best to avoid using any sort of WiFi-capable<br>GSM phones in their networks (Nokia has, for instance, the E62 for the<br>US Cingular/AT&T market which is, in every way, like the E61 except that
<br>it doesn't come with WiFi/SIP capability)).<br><br>Some people swear by the UTStarCom phones, but we found their support to<br>be incredibly substandard, their phone programming to be lacking in an<br>understanding of the market, and their hardware to be flashy (in the
<br>case of the F3000), but troublesome with constant loss of connection and<br>a difficulty to reestablish. The Linksys phones are, alas, just as<br>annoying.<br><br>It's kind of a shame, really. One would expect that to be a decent
<br>market -- IP phones that, you know, actually work well. But apparently,<br>not so much.<br><br>N.<br><br><br>Chris Bagnall wrote:<br>> Greetings list,<br>><br>> What are people's experiences with WiFi SIP phones?
<br>><br>> When I last looked into them about 18 months ago, they were incredibly expensive, had very limited range and poor battery life. In the end, it worked out much more cost effective to simply use ATAs + DECT cordless phones where there was a requirement for portable devices.
<br>><br>> I assume things must have moved on somewhat since then. What models are currently out there people would recommend I look at?<br>><br>> Thanks in advance.<br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>> Chris
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