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as well as A-Z outbound with les.net at the moment. Both the quality and
support are quite good. Ping time to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Vancouver</st1:place></st1:City> is around 80ms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Marcel Eric Loiselle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 01, 2006
12:36 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-users]
Opinions on the best wholesale origination/termproviders</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Brad,<br>
I can confirm the service quality of unlimitel.<br>
Have you look at <a href="http://www.les.net">www.les.net</a> they provide both
US and Canada DID. <br>
I heard good feedback about them<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 10/31/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Brad
Templeton</span></b> <<a href="mailto:brad+aster@templetons.com"
target="_blank"> brad+aster@templetons.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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I've been losing patience with my current provider, a small company <br>
called Sellvoip. Their termination is good, and they are<br>
asterisk based, but they are understaffed and have no concept<br>
of customer service. So I'm shopping.<br>
<br>
I am interested in the opinions of others on the providers they <br>
work with.<br>
<br>
Here are my criteria, roughly in order<br>
<br>
a) Decent quality, low latency.<br>
In particular, this means they probably tie into the
PSTN at<br>
multiple points, definitely east and west coast and
also in <br>
<st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>. I
don't want a <st1:State w:st="on">California</st1:State> caller calling <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State><br>
to have to send their packets to the east coast and
back.<br>
<br>
(This made me discard RNKVoIP, which was high on my
list)<br>
<br>
b) Fair pricing. I've seen blended rates down to a penny, and <br>
non-blended down to half/cent in the big city
Tier-1s. I<br>
don't expect the lowest possible price but I don't want
to<br>
see 100% markup either. For a blended rate,
let's see<br>
under 1.5 cents to the <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>. (<st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region> is
actually <br>
down to .8 cents at some providers now, others charge
more<br>
for it.)<br>
<br>
c) Origination, also at a fair price<br>
Which seems to be about $1/month for DID in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>, $2 in<br>
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
and close to 1 cent/minute. But I can pay more <br>
to get other factors. I guess I can go to
another firm<br>
for origination outside the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> in a pinch.<br>
<br>
d) Reliability very high. Duh.<br>
<br>
e) Decent customer service. If things go down you fix them and <br>
I can reach you to fix them. I don't need handholding,
I<br>
know my tools, but I do need you to fix problems.<br>
If you know your Asterisk, linux and SIP even better.<br>
<br>
f) Decent automated interface.<br>
So I can get DIDs, configure IPs, billing etc.<br>
<br>
g) Static IP authentication<br>
It's faster. Though dynamic IP registration as a backup
is<br>
handy.<br>
<br>
h) Global termination<br>
I don't want to have to manage and support too many different <br>
providers. That's work for me. So give me
good global<br>
termination prices too. That knocked out <a
href="http://termination.com/icall" target="_blank">termination.com/icall</a><br>
Though if I can't get all I want, I guess I'll buy global from <br>
one company and domestic from another.<br>
<br>
i) No high minimums<br>
I am just testing my software apps right now so I'm not<br>
going to bill minutes until much later when they ship.<br>
So I can't give you tons of minutes per month. I don't <br>
mind prepaying.<br>
<br>
j) SIP, and decently implemented. Asterisk/SER is fine.<br>
<br>
Now we get to my "nice to have" list<br>
<br>
o) IAX as well as SIP. Makes testing stuff easier.<br>
<br>
o) DTMF via SIP-INFO. <br>
This lets me have native bridge for the voice but still<br>
hear the DTMFs at my server, which would be handy.<br>
<br>
o) Origination worldwide<br>
<br>
o) Toll free origination<br>
<br>
o) Cheap toll free termination. (Why does this cost money anyway?) <br>
<br>
o) Don't want E911 service now. Might want it in future.<br>
Don't want to pay now.<br>
<br>
------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
So here's what I have found that come close<br>
<br>
sellvoip -- good quality, low latency, good
price. Online tools suck, <br>
customer service nonexistent<br>
<br>
rnkvoip -- most of what I want but east coast gateways
only. Good<br>
customer service but som
unreliability in equipment<br>
<br>
<a href="http://telcommone.net" target="_blank">
telcommone.net</a> -- Looks fairy good so far. $2/DID in small<br>
quantities, but comes down
eventually. Very good term prices.<br>
Claims to enforce instate
calling prices. (Old world thinking)<br>
<br>
<a href="http://termination.com" target="_blank">termination.com</a>
-- very good prices but <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>
only<br>
<br>
terravon -- 1.7 / minute.<br>
<br>
trxtelecom -- offers free 800 termination, they claim,
and pay-you <br>
origination in rural latas if
that's your style. (Great if <br>
you expect most calls to come
from cell phones or other people<br>
with bundled long distance
blended rates.)<br>
<br>
unlimitel -- for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">canada</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<br>
<a href="http://netiqsys.net" target="_blank">
netiqsys.net</a> -- no origination but good prices<br>
<br>
<br>
Any views on these or other providers?<br>
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-- <br>
Marcel Eric<br>
mailto: <a href="mailto:marceleric@gmail.com" target="_blank">marceleric@gmail.com</a>
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