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1. Astricon is a conference and exhibition of "Asterisk" not "Digium".<br>
2. bkw__ has the right to free speech and his opinon of how
"childish" or not Mark Spencer and Digum is or is not.<br>
3. Corydon-w is dening bkw__'s right to free speech.<br>
4. Mark Spencer and other Digium employees have no right to ask
someone to leave because of a shirt that is within the limits of the
dress code of the resturant.<br>
5. CtRiX has the right to free speech and his opinon of both
company's products.<br>
6. Corydon-w is dening CtRiX's right to free speech.<br>
<br>
I would expect a public apology from Mark Spencer/Digium for asking
bkw__ to leave the resturant.<br>
I would expect a public apology from Corydon-w to both bkw__ and CtRiX
for kicking them off the irc server.<br>
I would expect both bkw__ and CtRiX's irc access to be returned
immediatly.<br>
<br>
If Corydon-w has moderator access to the irc channel - then a warning
to the user is a must. A user cannot be simply kicked because he is
saying this or that. If that topic was not appropriate, then the
warning should have silenced the issue. Now we have a good chunk of the
asterisk comminuty aware of the events that took place. This makes
everyone involved look worse.<br>
<br>
If I do not see an apology from Mark Spencer and Digium on this list,
then I will not be purchasing any more Digium products nor will I
publicly contribute any of my conceptual idea's or source code on how
to make asterisk better.<br>
<br>
This is an open source project, and as such anyone can take and modify
or integrate their software and/or hardware with it.<br>
<br>
Anyone disagreeing with my view on this can take it up with me directly
off-list.<br>
<br>
-Jon<br>
<br>
<br>
Unmetered Pipe wrote:<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid20061024010105.95165.qmail@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com"
type="cite">
<div>I don't mean to be a troll in any way shape or form. I was on
IRC last night and I observed the following convo. below. What do you
guys make of it ?</div>
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<div>[02:14] <bkw__> Let me tell you how chidlish digium and
Mark Spencer is. I walk into a restaurant with them all here at
Astricon wearing my sangoma shirt and he asked me to leave.<br>
[02:15] <Dovid> u serious ?<br>
[02:15] *** mog (<a
href="mailto:i=ejabberd@c-71-207-215-93.hsd1.al.comcast.net">i=ejabberd@c-71-207-215-93.hsd1.al.comcast.net</a>)
left ()<br>
[02:15] <bkw__> yes<br>
[02:15] <Adam12> Wow, I didn't think Mark Spencer owned a
restaurant! :)<br>
[02:15] <Dovid> btw how old is mark ? he looks like a kid<br>
[02:15] <bkw__> 28<br>
[02:15] <Dovid> damn<br>
[02:16] <Dovid> filthy rich boy<br>
[02:16] <Dovid> i knes he wasnt over 30<br>
[02:16] <CtRiX> bkw_, trolling again :-)<br>
[02:16] <Inez> I must try with 1.4<br>
[02:16] *** Corydon-w sets channel #asterisk mode +b <a
href="mailto:*%21n=*@216.138.69.138">*!n=*@216.138.69.138</a> <br>
[02:16] *** bkw__ was kicked from #asterisk by Corydon-w (troll)<br>
[02:16] <Dovid> he asked u to leave cause u were wearin the
competitors shirt ? u know u didnt have to leave. i woulda rubbed it in
his face.<br>
[02:16] <Dovid> lol<br>
[02:17] *** xin01oz quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))<br>
[02:17] <Dovid> Corydon: can I PM u ?<br>
[02:17] <CtRiX> another demo of how the truth may hurt<br>
[02:17] <mishehu> Corydon-w: uhm, flex that muscle<br>
[02:17] <@Corydon-w> Nope<br>
[02:17] <[TK]D-Fender> Dovid : Careful... "The Man" is listening
;)<br>
[02:17] <Dovid> i know - i want to ask a question but not here<br>
[02:17] *** [Outcast] quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))<br>
[02:17] <Dovid> to be fare to him i want to ask in PM<br>
[02:17] <mishehu> Dovid: I've had sat there and told him how
great I think the competitor's product is<br>
[02:18] <mishehu> that's rude as hell what he did.<br>
[02:18] <Dovid> who ?<br>
[02:18] <mishehu> Dovid: about bkw and the digium crew<br>
[02:18] <CtRiX> another demo of how sangoma is stealing someone's
business wirh better products<br>
[02:18] <Dovid> what bkw did or mark ?<br>
[02:19] <mishehu> Dovid: commenting about what I would have done
if I was bkw_.<br>
[02:19] *** Corydon-w sets channel #asterisk mode +b <a
href="mailto:*%21n=*@aretha.navynet.il">*!n=*@aretha.navynet.il</a> <br>
[02:19] *** CtRiX was kicked from #asterisk by Corydon-w (trolling)<br>
[02:19] <[TK]D-Fender> *sigh*<br>
[02:19] *** Adam12 (<a
href="mailto:n=adam@d150-182-137.home.cgocable.net">n=adam@d150-182-137.home.cgocable.net</a>)
left ("So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!")<br>
[02:20] * Druken kicks [TK]D-Fender<br>
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