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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>IS running a gambling site illegal in the
UK?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If so, perhaps they had a warrant out for him, and
we (US) are just going to extradite him.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>-- <BR>Steven</DIV>
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<DIV>"Dean Collins" <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Exactly so why aren’t
they trying to arrest the 50 million people in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> who have
gambled online?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mark (as far as I
know) isn’t actively checking with asterisk users for what country they are in
so therefore in the reciprocal eyes of the indian government he is similarly
breaking the law.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Basically what the
<st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region> government is charging
Peter Dicks with is not being a global policeman to enforce a
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> law (which the WTO has already
ruled is illegal back in March <A
href="http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3434111">http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3434111</A>
).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place>
government can’t enforce it’s principals on the rest of the world otherwise
they are no better than the terrorists who are trying to impose Sharia Law on
the world.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m trying terribly
not to take this discussion any further Off Topic but realistically we live in
a global society and the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> is overstepping it’s limits on
international trade here. I appreciate this isn’t the best forum for it but
this has much wider ramifications for those of us who do business
internationally in and with the USA.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dean<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Alex Robar<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 8 September 2006 12:45
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [asterisk-users] FW: Peter
Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC isarrested at JFK!!</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The guy was arrested because he was
conciously allowing <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region>
citizens to gamble online, something illegal in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> at this
point. He ran a business who's sole profit source came from this illegal
activity. Spencer is an entirely different situation. He's not running a
business in which he provides VoIP to places where it is illegal. He's running
a business the develops software that enables VoIP... There's a big difference
there. If someone takes the software and uses it in a place where VoIP is
illegal, that does not make Spencer responsible. Think of it along the lines
of BitTorrent software. The software isn't illegal - it has valid uses - but
it _could_ be used for something illegal. All that means is that the user of
the software has commited a crime; Not the developer.
<BR><BR>Alex<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Dean
Collins</st1:PersonName> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 8 September 2006 10:22
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> FW: Peter Dicks Chairman of
Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm sending this to
the asterisk list – consciously knowing it will piss some people off but
this is the <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">most important business issue
of the day</SPAN></B> for anyone doing business in or with a
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
company.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oh and before
anyone on this list thinks of calling this OT – how about Mark Spencer being
arrested while travelling in a country like India or the Middle East that
has banned VOIP services (which is still illegal because they cant tax it of
course).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don't know what
you are going to be able to do with this information but this has to be
discussed as it affect the future of international commerce when dealing
with the USA.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best
intentions,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dean</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Dean
Collins</st1:PersonName> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 8 September 2006 10:15
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Peter Dicks
Chairman of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at
JFK!!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">This is bullshit.<BR><BR>I don't know
how to effectively express my outrage over this action by the
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
government.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Check out these links for background
info;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#cccccc size=3><SPAN lang=EN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #cccccc"><A
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/technology/08gamble.html?_r=1&oref=slogin"
target=_blank>www.nytimes.com</A> <BR><A
href="http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/08/news/international/bc.leisure.sportingbet.reut/?postversion=2006090808"
target=_blank>money.cnn.com</A> <BR><A
href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-09-07T160138Z_01_N07242747_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-LEISURE-SPORTINGBET-DICKS.XML"
target=_blank>today.reuters.co.uk</A> <BR><A
href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8K02SM85.htm?sub=apn_euro_up&chan=gb"
target=_blank>www.businessweek.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">So basically we have a <st1:country-region
w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region> citizen, operating a <st1:country-region
w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region> business <A
title=http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246
href="http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246"
target=_blank>(sportingbetplc.com board)</A> who the moment he steps foot
into the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> is arrested, not for crimes
he committed but for crimes committted by US citizens.<BR><BR>Oh and
arrested under ambiguous <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Louisiana</st1:place></st1:State> law, that defines all interstate
gaming as illegal.<BR><BR>I cant wait for the chairman of the NY Times to be
arrested on a visit to China because chinese citizens were reading copies of
the NY Times on the internet.<BR><BR>Oh and as for visiting 'unfriendly'
countries, how about if Castro started shooting american tourists he found
in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cuba</st1:place></st1:country-region> for 'crimes of treason' in
carrying US dollars in their wallets?<BR><BR>This is insane
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>. When are you going to
wake up and begin to be a good 'world citizen'?<BR><BR>You cant just arrest
people for 'crimes against the state' that dont even occur in your
country........isn't that what terrorists do? Impose their will against the
world at large.<BR><BR>I keep hoping I will wake up and the insanity will
end? it's like a bad dream.<BR>It's getting hard to tell who is the bad guys
anymore.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A
href="http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/peter-dicks-chairman-of-sportingbet.html"
target=_blank>http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/peter-dicks-chairman-of-sportingbet.html</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dean<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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