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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Exactly so why aren’t they trying to
arrest the 50 million people in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> who have gambled online?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark (as far as I know) isn’t actively checking
with asterisk users for what country they are in so therefore in the reciprocal
eyes of the indian government he is similarly breaking the law.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Basically what the <st1:country-region
w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region> government is charging Peter Dicks with is
not being a global policeman to enforce a <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> law (which the WTO has already
ruled is illegal back in March <a
href="http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3434111">http://www.internetnews.com/ec-news/article.php/3434111</a>
).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place> government can’t enforce it’s
principals on the rest of the world otherwise they are no better than the
terrorists who are trying to impose Sharia Law on the world.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m trying terribly not to take this
discussion any further Off Topic but realistically we live in a global society and
the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>
is overstepping it’s limits on international trade here. I appreciate this isn’t
the best forum for it but this has much wider ramifications for those of us who
do business internationally in and with the USA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alex Robar<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 8 September 2006
12:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Asterisk
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-users] FW:
Peter Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC isarrested at JFK!!</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The guy was arrested
because he was conciously allowing <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region>
citizens to gamble online, something illegal in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> at this point. He ran a business
who's sole profit source came from this illegal activity. Spencer is an
entirely different situation. He's not running a business in which he provides
VoIP to places where it is illegal. He's running a business the develops
software that enables VoIP... There's a big difference there. If someone takes
the software and uses it in a place where VoIP is illegal, that does not make
Spencer responsible. Think of it along the lines of BitTorrent software. The
software isn't illegal - it has valid uses - but it _could_ be used for
something illegal. All that means is that the user of the software has commited
a crime; Not the developer. <br>
<br>
Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Dean Collins</st1:PersonName> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 8 September 2006
10:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Asterisk
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> FW: Peter Dicks Chairman
of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I'm sending this to the asterisk list – consciously knowing
it will piss some people off but this is the <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>most
important business issue of the day</span></b> for anyone doing business in or
with a <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
company.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Oh and before anyone on this list thinks of calling this OT –
how about Mark Spencer being arrested while travelling in a country like India
or the Middle East that has banned VOIP services (which is still illegal
because they cant tax it of course).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I don't know what you are going to be able to do with this
information but this has to be discussed as it affect the future of
international commerce when dealing with the USA.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin:0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best intentions,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dean</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Dean Collins</st1:PersonName> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 8 September 2006
10:15 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Peter Dicks Chairman of
Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>This is bullshit.<br>
<br>
I don't know how to effectively express my outrage over this action by the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> government.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Check out these links for background info;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color="#cccccc" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#CCCCCC'><a
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/technology/08gamble.html?_r=1&oref=slogin"
target="_blank">www.nytimes.com</a> <br>
<a
href="http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/08/news/international/bc.leisure.sportingbet.reut/?postversion=2006090808"
target="_blank">money.cnn.com</a> <br>
<a
href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-09-07T160138Z_01_N07242747_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-LEISURE-SPORTINGBET-DICKS.XML"
target="_blank">today.reuters.co.uk</a> <br>
<a
href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8K02SM85.htm?sub=apn_euro_up&chan=gb"
target="_blank">www.businessweek.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>So basically we have a <st1:country-region w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region>
citizen, operating a <st1:country-region w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region>
business <a
href="http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246"
target="_blank"
title="http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246">(sportingbetplc.com
board)</a> who the moment he steps foot into the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> is arrested, not for crimes he
committed but for crimes committted by US citizens.<br>
<br>
Oh and arrested under ambiguous <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Louisiana</st1:place></st1:State>
law, that defines all interstate gaming as illegal.<br>
<br>
I cant wait for the chairman of the NY Times to be arrested on a visit to China
because chinese citizens were reading copies of the NY Times on the internet.<br>
<br>
Oh and as for visiting 'unfriendly' countries, how about if Castro started
shooting american tourists he found in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cuba</st1:place></st1:country-region> for 'crimes of treason' in
carrying US dollars in their wallets?<br>
<br>
This is insane <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
When are you going to wake up and begin to be a good 'world citizen'?<br>
<br>
You cant just arrest people for 'crimes against the state' that dont even occur
in your country........isn't that what terrorists do? Impose their will against
the world at large.<br>
<br>
I keep hoping I will wake up and the insanity will end? it's like a bad dream.<br>
It's getting hard to tell who is the bad guys anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/peter-dicks-chairman-of-sportingbet.html"
target="_blank">http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/peter-dicks-chairman-of-sportingbet.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dean<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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