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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know.. I know&#8230; fiber would be
ideal.  We have single-mode all over the place.  We even have some dark, unterminated
strands within 2000ft of this location &#8211; it makes me want to cry. 
Unfortunately lighting it up isn&#8217;t an option &#8211; we wouldn&#8217;t
gain anything because we couldn&#8217;t connect to anything else to get us the
last stretch.  Trenching 2000ft isn&#8217;t an option &#8211; this is National
Forest land and we&#8217;re not allowed to do that.  </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As far as wireless &#8211; no line of sight. 
This location sits in a little bowl at 11,200&#8217;.  </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So what I&#8217;m left with is a 400pr,
22awg out to 3000&#8217;.  Then we jump on 200pr, 24awg aerial cable strung on
the 3<sup>rd</sup> longest high-speed quad chairlift (10,800&#8217; run).  The
last leg involves a short underground to another high-speed quad and down 6000&#8217;. 
We can stick a powered repeater in the motor room of the first lift (so I guess
a bit further than the original 12,000&#8217; I was thinking.)  </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, we do strange things.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you&#8217;re really curious, here&#8217;s
a map of the campus environment we maintain:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>http://www.skireport.com/colorado/copper/trailmap/</span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>-------------------<br>
Brian Vincent<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Copper</span></font><font
 size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'> </span></font><font
  size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Mountain</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'> Telecom<br>
vincentb@coppercolorado.com</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce Reeves<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:03
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> manrique.feoli@kinetos.com;
Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-users] long
distance ethernet &amp; Asterisk</span></font></p>

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.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
would really look towards fiber, the bandwidth and distance can easily be
handled.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmailquote><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 7/27/06, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Manrique Feoli</span></b> &lt;<a
href="mailto:manrique.feoli@kinetos.com"> manrique.feoli@kinetos.com</a>&gt;
wrote:</span></font></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If you have line of sight between the points,&nbsp;
maybe you could setup a wireless link point to point,&nbsp;&nbsp; I know some
people who have done it over 3 to 5 miles range,&nbsp;&nbsp; they get 10
Mbps,&nbsp; (but don´t know if you could get more).<br>
just a thought<br>
<br>
<br>
Joe Pukepail escribió: </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><span class=e><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Fiber?&nbsp; Otherwise maybe look at cisco LRE (Long reach ethernet),
but I think the limit for LRE is 5000ft (beats the heck out of regular
ethernets 300ft).&nbsp; Last I looked LRE was very expensive. </span></font></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmailquote><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 7/27/06, <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Brian Vincent (C)</span></b> &lt;<a
href="mailto:VincentB@coppercolorado.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:VincentB@coppercolorado.com"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
VincentB@coppercolorado.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></font></span> </p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Two questions:</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We need to run Ethernet out to a really long distance
&#8211; 20,000ft.&nbsp; We have the ability to put a powered repeater in at
about 12,000'.&nbsp; We can run it using up to 4 pairs.&nbsp; Any
recommendations on products that will reach that far?&nbsp; We're looking for 5
&#8211; 10Mbps.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The products we're likely looking at might be
something like g.SHDSL, although I'm fine with a completely proprietary
solution.&nbsp; Any idea if it would add too much latency to run a SIP phone? </span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TIA</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-------------------<br>
Brian Vincent<br>
Copper Mountain Telecom<br>
<a href="mailto:vincentb@coppercolorado.com" target="_blank"
title="mailto:vincentb@coppercolorado.com (mailto:vincentb@coppercolorado.com)"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">vincentb@coppercolorado.com
</a></span></font></p>

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