Personally, I have to agree with Alexander on this...<br>The single PRI card is $6k, I might as well get online and buy a used cisco as5300/5400, I can get those for $5-7k on ebay usually, they have DSPs, and take all the load off the server itself, and I'd have the added benefit of the thing being expandable, if someone suddenly needed 4 PRIs, just add a line card.. yeah they're expensive, but cheaper than dropping $6k per PRI...
<br>Of course, then I wouldn't be able to suggest asterisk to any small businesses, because I just priced myself out of the market... but whatever.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/20/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Armin Schindler</b> <<a href="mailto:armin@melware.de">armin@melware.de</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Fri, 19 May 2006, Alexander Lopez wrote:<br>> For me the answer is simple:<br>><br>> 1 Not open source, IT is a thrill to be able to say what you did<br>> without Closed SW.<br><br>The drivers are GPL'ed open source. If your are referring to the firmware,
<br>then yes, it is closed, but why would you need that open? With the provided<br>interface, you can do a lot of things...<br><br>> 2 Expensive<br>><br>> Eicon Diva Server Analog- 4 Port Price: $1,695.00
<br>> Most customers won't need that level of Fax anyway, it is<br>> usually a freebee tossed in as "Splenda" (ie Artificial Sweetener)<br><br>Sure, but when a professional reliable server with good features is needed,
<br>you might be cheaper in the end when you don't need to work around the<br>problems you get with the cheaper cards.<br><br>> 3 Not that big of a deal, most people would have an investment in<br>> a fax machine anyway.
<br><br>Possibly, but again, I didn't refer to that 'small' solutions.<br><br>Armin<br><br>> Just my .10 (Had to increase 5 fold to pay for gas for SUV)<br>><br>><br>> > -----Original Message-----<br>> > From:
<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-">asterisk-users-</a><br>> > <a href="mailto:bounces@lists.digium.com">bounces@lists.digium.com
</a>] On Behalf Of Armin Schindler<br>> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:54 PM<br>> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>> > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FAX over PRI<br>> >
<br>> > On Fri, 19 May 2006, Alexander Lopez wrote:<br>> > > I have the same problem, Switched to HylaFax and IAXModem and had<br>> MUCH<br>> > > better luck. MUCH better being defined as not a single usable fax to
<br>> > > only missing about 1%. Not bad.<br>> ><br>> > Just out of curiousity, if the faxing is not that reliable with<br>> softfax<br>> > solutions, why not using hardware DSPs?<br>> >
E.g. the DIVA Server PRI card (with DSPs for some or all channels)<br>> does<br>> > provide faxing without using the CPU (same like the DIVA Server BRI<br>> > cards).<br>> ><br>> > Armin<br>> >
<br>> ><br>> > > Spandsp or rather RXFax works on a few machines I hae quite well but<br>> on<br>> > > others it does not work at all, I have had good retruns with the<br>> > > HylaFax.IAXmodem
combo on machines that could not use the RxFax.<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > ________________________________<br>> > ><br>> > > From:
<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a><br>> > > [mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
</a>] On Behalf Of Tom<br>> > > Christensen<br>> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:18 PM<br>> > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FAX over PRI
<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > I have had nothing but problems receiving faxes over PRIs with<br>> spandsp.<br>> > > I currently have 4 systems, 4 PRIs from 4 different providers...
<br>> none of<br>> > > them get better than 50% success rates receiving faxes in spandsp, I<br>> > > constantly get cut off pages. No body seems to have a fix for it,<br>> and<br>> > > it is really frustrating. Supposedly it is caused by "frame slips"
<br>> on<br>> > > the PRI, but if that is the case, I am 4 for 4 getting crappy PRIs<br>> that<br>> > > can't keep time.<br>> > ><br>> > > These same boxes work fine when receiving faxes over fxo ports, or
<br>> if I<br>> > > plug a fax machine into an fxs port and call in to a spandsp<br>> extension<br>> > > the fax will be received just fine, so I am left thinking it must be<br>> the<br>> > > PRIs, but if all PRIs are this bad, how can anybody be using them?
<br>> > ><br>> > > Tom<br>> > ><br>> > > On 5/19/06, Steve Hanselman <<a href="mailto:SteveH@brendata.co.uk">SteveH@brendata.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > Sorry for the late reply but both of these are fine, we use spandsp
<br>> to<br>> > > print some faxes and email others.<br>> > ><br>> > > We also route via a PRI to our other phone system to hylafax on an<br>> > > analog modem and also to an analog fax.
<br>> > ><br>> > > So what you want to do is fine and will work.<br>> > ><br>> > > Steve<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > -----Original Message-----<br>> > > From:
<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a><br>> > > [mailto: <a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
</a>] On Behalf Of<br>> Michael<br>> > > Gaudette<br>> > > Sent: 21 March 2006 20:34<br>> > > To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'<br>> > > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FAX over PRI
<br>> > ><br>> > > Hmmm, Im not so sure I can apply this to me though. I just want to<br>> do<br>> > > Fax-To-Email using PRI channels as the incoming lines. Not so much<br>> > > transfer
<br>> > > to a real fax.<br>> > ><br>> > > I am assuming that this is easily done with Asterisk? (I did it<br>> before<br>> > > with<br>> > > Asterisk SIP, but it only worked once every 10 tries or so)
<br>> > ><br>> > > Mike<br>> > ><br>> > > -----Original Message-----<br>> > > From: <a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com
</a><br>> > > [mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew<br>> > > Kohlsmith<br>> > > Sent: March 21, 2006 3:25 PM
<br>> > > To: <a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a><br>> > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FAX over PRI<br>> > ><br>> > > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 15:09, Michael Gaudette wrote:
<br>> > > > How should I consider Fax over PRI channels with Asterisk? Is the<br>> > > > quality and reliability good, or should I be prepared for alot of<br>> > > grief?<br>> > >
<br>> > > I'm having good success doing fax over PRI using a TE405; one span<br>> to<br>> > > the<br>> > > PRI, the other to an FXS channel bank that is almost obscenely<br>> > > underutilized
<br>> > > (3 channels).<br>> > ><br>> > > I also have channel bank - T100P - IAX2 - TE405 - PRI, where the<br>> IAX2<br>> > > link<br>> > > is a 1-hop SDSL (VOIP only) data link. This works well too.
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