<br><a href="http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=99_359_360">http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=99_359_360</a><br><br>A20002 no echo can = 359<br>A2002D with echo can = 659<br><br>Both above are with 4 FXO<br>
<br>I don't know if these are the best prices you can find, but for comparison - from the same vendor:<br><br><a href="http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=99_103">http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=99_103</a>
<br><br>DGM-TDM04B = 378.90<br><br>The above is without echo can. There is no option for echo can, you are stuck tuning the gain, which when I tried - left my call volume too low or caused the echo to be worse!<br><br>I agree that rebooting sometimes brings the digium card back to life.
<br><br>I've yet to have a problem with the Sangoma, also -- I have not tried their board without the echo cancellation. I'm thinking you'd be stuck adjusting the gain though.<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/5/06,
<b class="gmail_sendername">Steve Jones</b> <<a href="mailto:sjones@ftdata.com">sjones@ftdata.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Can you tell me what model Sangoma cards you're talking about?? The ones I saw that had HW echo cancellation were substantially more expensive than the Digiums.. I'm hoping I was looking at the wrong model or something!
<br>Thanks<br>-Steve<br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: Lorentz Hinrichsen [mailto:<a href="mailto:lorentz.wulf@gmail.com">lorentz.wulf@gmail.com</a>]<br>Sent: Tue 4/4/2006 10:48 PM<br>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
<br>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Frustrated with echo...<br><br><br>I've had very poor results with the Digium cards, I am using a couple of the new Sangoma ones now (they are cheaper and have hardware echo cancellation).
<br><br>The digium boards proved almost impossible to completely eliminate echo, and I had random failures over time.<br><br><br>On 4/4/06, Steve Jones <<a href="mailto:sjones@ftdata.com">sjones@ftdata.com</a>> wrote:
<br><br> For phones, I've got a GS 101, a Sipura 841, and two analog phones hooked to an GS386 ATA (one phone per port).<br><br> My troubles seem to be regardless of which phone is used, so I dont think it's on the phone-end of asterisk, but rather where I interface w/ Vonage and Verizon via POTS FXO... My SIP connections to the outside world have so far been good [frantically knocking on wood]
<br><br> I did go ahead and order the digium card yesterday evening, so I'm hopeful this will help. I had played with the gain, and was able to discern a difference, but it seemed to make some scenarios better, while making others worse, so I'm hoping the real digium card/drivers will just be smarter about handling it dynamically. Of course, my wife, who's a stay-at-home-mom is the biggest user of the system, but she's not interested in being a techy, so getting her to interrogate all callers about which number they dialed, etc.. and logging her opinions of the quality of the call hasn't worked! ;-)
<br><br> I also have some Cisco phones, but I haven't configured SCCP on my system yet, and dont want to use SIP on these phone (mostly to force myself to learn to configure SCCP on *) so that's another aspect that may help me after this weekend!
<br><br> Good point about the interrupts - I dont know the answer to that, but hopefully that'll also be a non-issue after I get the new card, and therefore have only one PCI slot handling everything.<br><br> Thanks for the ideas!!
<br> -Steve<br><br><br> ________________________________<br><br> From: Mike Dent [mailto:<a href="mailto:mcdent@gmail.com">mcdent@gmail.com</a>]<br> Sent: Mon 4/3/2006 3:46 PM<br> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
<br> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Frustrated with echo...<br><br><br><br> On 4/3/06, Steve Jones <<a href="mailto:sjones@ftdata.com">sjones@ftdata.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > I've been using my Asterisk (At my house - 2 modem-type fxos, and an
<br> > assortment of SIP endpoints for phones) for about 5 weeks now, and I've been<br> > really happy with it, but I'm still having an echo problem that I've<br> > exhausted google with, and can't get straight...
<br> ><br> > I think I've determined that because I'm using $7 voice modem clones for my<br> > FXOs that bad echo is going to just keep being a pain to me... I think I<br> > should have only tried going through "proof of concept" state with them,
<br> > switching to something a little better quality when it was time to actually<br> > commit to Asterisk.<br> ><br> > So, my question is "What's better and why: 1: a 'real' digium PCI card with
<br> > two fxo plugins, or using a couple external SIP fxo units like a<br> > grandstream, zoom, or similar" Personally, I think it would be desirable to<br> > keep the FXOs out of the asterisk box itself, just to give me future
<br> > flexability to move to whatever the platform of the day I want to put<br> > asterisk on, without dealing with a PCI card to move, but if the consensus<br> > is that the voice quality and support for the digium board is the best, then
<br> > that's what I'll do..<br> ><br> > So, any comments on relative quality of these devices, and/or ones I've<br> > missed?<br> > 1: Grandstream HT-488<br> > 2: Zoom 5801/5802
<br> > 3: DGM-TDM02B (TDM 400P with two FXOs)<br> ><br> > Are there any IAX2 FXOs that I'm missing? That seems to be an area that's<br> > oddly not taken care of...<br> >
<br> > Any hints would be greatly appreciated!<br><br> Steve,<br> I have a similar setup at home, although I am in the UK. I've got the<br> echo fairly well under control, however it seems much less when using
<br> my Cisco 7960 rather than<br> the Grandstrean BT102 phone.<br> Have you tried dropping the gain?<br> Have you made sure you have both cards on seperate IRQ's which are not<br> in use by network, video etc? I disabled USB and on board audio in the
<br> BIOS to help free up IRQ's.<br> I think your best option is the TDM400 card, or perhaps consider the<br> Sangoma card with a dual FXO module, maybe slightly cheaper!<br> I'd be interested what SIP phones you are using and if echo differs
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