[asterisk-users] Amazon, Asterisk and reliability beyond a hobby system?

Fri Nov 22 12:41:45 CST 2013

If you have no analog lines, Amazon/Rackspace/...  will probably beat 
your local ISP on bandwidth to your SIP/IAX carrier.

If your users are not in the same building as your in-house hosted 
Asterisk, Amazon might have a lot better connectivity with your users.

You certainly have a lot more flexibility in adding power to your setup 
at an Amazon.

I guess that one can decide what are the critical points that need to be 
tested (call volume, call quality, user connectivity) and devise a test 
setup.

Ron

On 22/11/2013 1:18 PM, Todd R. wrote:
> I would have said the same thing a while back but, I can't ignore the 
> fact that there have been what seems to be many "Virtualization" 
> success stories.
>
> The idea that Asterisk just likes to be on it's own dedicated hardware 
> has always caused me to prefer dedicated hardware.
>
> But, is the possibility of a single piece of hardware failing "better" 
> than something that will likely never just flat out die?
>
> I know there are high availability solutions out there and it's not 
> that I don't have backups and disaster recovery plans in place.
>
> I just want to make things far better regarding redundancy, recovery 
> and scalability and virtualization is hard to beat when you start 
> talking about these things.
>
> There are definitely people/companies using virtualized Asterisk 
> solutions successfully, so I feel like it can be done.
>
> Asterisk has come a long way since I first starting messing with 
> Asterisk and so has Asterisk itself.
>
> So, I am trying to determine what is bad, what to look out for in 
> terms of virtualizing. If it's still as bad of an idea as it was say 5 
> years ago, then I need to understand why and if there is a work around.
>
> At this point, the benefits of virtualizing my Asterisk boxes are too 
> many to count. So, if I can't find any concrete reasons to NOT do this 
> beyond "That's a bad idea" then I am going to give it a go. If I do, I 
> am looking for any advice good or bad from those that have gone down 
> this road successfully or with miserable failure.
>
> My opinion all along has been Asterisk + Virtualization + Real Live 
> Production Use = BAD IDEA!
>
> Now, I am trying to figure out if that's just the opinion of an old 
> man (sort of old) who just doesn't want to accept that virtualization 
> if a better way (in terms of Asterisk).
>
> So, I am hoping for people to tell me why Amazon AWS specifically is a 
> good or bad idea with as much detail as possible.
>
> Thanks!
>
> > To: tjrlist at live.com; asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Amazon, Asterisk and reliability 
> beyond a hobby system?
> > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:04:44 -0500
> > From: covici at ccs.covici.com
> >
> > I would thinktwice about Amazon -- and virtual in general is not a good
> > idea for this sort of thing. I have seen messages about bad results
> > with amazon specifically.
> >
> > Todd R. <tjrlist at live.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Just checking one more time to see if anyone has an opinion on 
> this. I am primarily interested in using a cloud type setup such as 
> Amazon AWS for the redundancy, easy backup and recovery options. It's 
> not about price but the idea that it will be very hard for a single 
> piece of hardware to ruin my day.
> > >
> > > From: tjrlist at live.com
> > > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:33:38 -0600
> > > Subject: [asterisk-users] Amazon, Asterisk and reliability beyond 
> a hobby system?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Took me a while but I have finally embraced cloud computing and 
> all the benefits.
> > > The only thing I have yet to feel comfortable about putting in the 
> cloud is real live Asterisk boxes to be used in production. I know 
> it's being done because as far as I know Twilio is using Amazon for 
> their Asterisk boxes.
> > > I have read all the fun articles on building hobby type systems 
> and that's all great.
> > > What I really need to hear is from those that have deployed 
> Asterisk in Amazon or Digital Ocean and how many simultaneous calls 
> they are pushing through it and what the call quality and reliability 
> has been.
> > > Right now I am still using dedicated hardware but I could become 
> much more redundant and scale much faster using Amazon or Digital Ocean.
> > > Thanks in advance for any information from those that have already 
> been down this road...
> > >
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