[asterisk-users] building a phone
Tzafrir Cohen
tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
Fri Feb 27 12:49:11 CST 2009
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:11:35AM -0700, Wilton Helm wrote:
> >Again, the main reason for me to require a higher end CPU is audio
> >compression. But I also want the system to be run by a standard OS. It
> >needs to be easy to add your own application there.
>
>
> Mutually exclusive. I don't know any standard OS that doesn't waste
> about 10 x as many CPU cycles as a SIP phone should ever need.
It's not about what is wasted. It's about what you're left with.
Anyway, my new home PBX is an Alix (alix6b2) unit:
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6b2.htm
It's running Debian Lenny.
chao:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 5
model : 10
model name : Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 498.056
cache size : 128 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu de pse tsc msr cx8 sep pge cmov clflush mmx mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips : 998.10
clflush size : 32
power management:
chao:~# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 256640 251900 4740 0 78488 145972
-/+ buffers/cache: 27440 229200
Swap: 224868 52 224816
It also has an openvpn link, an Astribank device and the network of my
very small LAN.
Its standard load avarage is, well, 0.
I never even bothered optimizing it.
> The
> problem is generalization. A standard OS is designed to support a
> wide variety of devices, including a wide range of screen sizes.
> The abstraction layers that make this possible often consume more
> CPU resources than the application they are supporting. Most of that
> isn't needed for this application. Compatibility with WXVGA isn't
> required. Even a full blown file system is a luxury.
Ask yourself how all those small mp4 players even work. I suppose most
of them run Linux. See also http://www.rockbox.org/
>
> Linux is about the closest thing because it can be pared down. But it
> takes someone with considerable experience to know how and what to
> trim. I supervised a system that used "busy box" to create a compact
> system that lived on a small flash card an some RAM.
This trimming can also be automated, if I see that a standard
distribution will not do. See e.g. http://astlinux.org/ .
>
> As an example, I have been a Palm owner for a number of years. I
> laughed when the Win CE stuff came out to compete. The Palm OS was
> written for the task at hand. I could go a week or more on a charge.
> The Win CE devices had to be recharged after 8 hours! Why? The OS
> required too much which required far more compute power, which ate
> batteries.
The device does not run on batteries.
The plug I mentioned above is 5W.
Here's what happens when someone starts optimizing the power
consumption:
http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=61
Anyway, a general-purpose OS consumes extra memory, but relatively
little power. I expect that a SIP phone (Requiring transport of many
small packet => many interrupts) is a large power consumer.
>
> The SIP phone you propose could be done with about 1 W of power plus
> a couple more for backlighting. An OS based version would start at
> 5 W + backlight
And this is based on?
> and could easily go to 15 W or higher. Not the end of the world,
> I suppose on a desk (if there aren't a hundred of them and I'm not
> paying the electric bill) but a huge difference if it has to run
> on batteries.
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