[asterisk-users] OT: What do you guys think of this?

[Alex Balashov]

BJ Weschke wrote:
> Alex Balashov wrote:
>> RE Kushner List Account wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> The question is, what are you actually paying for as a customer?  To 
>>> discriminate against bits just because they actually use what they are 
>>> paying for is beyond me.
>>>
>>> At least a bandwidth cap is easier to understand. You get what you pay for.
>>>     
>> Speaking as a former sysadmin of an ISP, I would say that the issue is 
>> the following:
>>
>> 1) There is a high correlation of network-disrupting levels of traffic 
>> and BitTorrent;
>>
>> 2) Unlike some "bursty" downloads (like your CentOS ISO from an FTP 
>> server), BitTorrent traffic has the tendency to be sustained at higher 
>> levels for longer periods since the architecture presumes that 
>> everyone's a client and everyone's a server and fragments are always 
>> moving around.  This is what tends to upset oversubscription assumptions 
>> that are otherwise functional, and are the only way that the ISP can 
>> possibly afford to give you the bandwidth for the price of 
>> consumer-grade broadband.
>>
>>
>> I would tend to agree with you that discriminating against types of 
>> services and/or traffic through rate-limiting buckets and deep packet 
>> inspection is worse than a blanket bandwidth cap.   However, you need to 
>> keep in mind the other side of the coin;  were it not for Torrent, there 
>> would not be a need for traffic policing (in the overwhelming 
>> preponderance of cases) either way, so it's considered unfair to punish 
>> everyone with a bandwidth cap on everything when in reality, it's not a 
>> problem if their applications *occasionally* burst to very high levels 
>> of throughput.  This is different from using up a lot of bandwidth 
>> continuously.
>>
>> My ISP doesn't care if I chug down a CentOS ISO tonight at close to my 
>> DSL line rate.  But if I downloaded them all day long, all day, every 
>> day, there would be a problem, but the way to solve that problem isn't 
>> by taking away others' freedom to download a CentOS ISO when they feel 
>> like it in principle.
>>
>>   
>  Have you checked the FTP and/or HTTP mirrors lately for the DVD iso of CentOS? The only place I've been able to find them is on the Torrents themselves.

OK, so maybe that's a bad example.  Shows how much I know - I'm a Debian 
guy.  :)  But it doesn't really undermine my point.


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