[asterisk-users] [VOIP-Users-Conference] Potential subject for Friday - Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party commercial software ecosystem?

Zoa zoachien at securax.org
Wed Apr 9 11:38:37 CDT 2008


You need to talk about this with digium sales, i suggest you give  Jim 
Webster a call.
Without going into details, other license agreements are possible. 
(Several companies including mine can distribute software as a module 
similar to how g729 is being sold - we do that for our t.30/t.38 fax 
modules, lumenvox does it for voice recognition,... ).

OT, where can i find the best info on this salesforce API ? Do you see 
any possibilities to integrate our zoiper softphone with salesforce ? 
(contact me off list for that)

Cheers,

Zoa

Dean Collins wrote:
> Hi BJ,
> Further explanation about the 3rd party ecosystem question this morning
>
> Cory Andrews from VoIP supply was on the Voip-Users conference call last
> week.
>
> I asked the question - how much of VoIP Supply revenue is product versus
> applications - he said we don't sell any services such as ITSP hosted
> Asterisk so I replied that wasn't what I was thinking of and gave the
> example of Snap Dialer which is a low cost (I think I paid $20 for it)
> application which allows me to dial names from outlook.
>
> I then talked about some of the consulting I did for Salesforce.com and
> how they have built an entire ecosystem of third party applications all
> built by other people but utilizing the documented API's and application
> security etc.
>
> My comments were that although Asterisk should always remain a free open
> source application that developers need to eat and pay rent as well.
>
> If there was some common marketplace that developers could sell small -
> low cost third party applications to the Asterisk community that Digium
> had some type of overview/management control over who listed etc that
> this would deliver a stream of revenue that would encourage further
> application development.
>
> The question I then posed to the group was if anyone knew how Digium
> managed the sale and licensing of the G729 codes.
>
> And if this was an open published standard that it could be used as the
> basis for the Asterisk ecosystem license model.
>
> Now I know it's not perfect and can be hacked but everything can be
> hacked. The idea is to build apps cheap enough that it's not worth the
> effort of hacking.
>
> I know there were discussions in Mexuar about how we could sell (read
> license) a single channel of the Mexuar Corraleta application rather
> than the entire server license for $2000.
>
> Earlier this week I sent an original email to Digium and told Kevin was
> responsible for the G729 licenses so I was hoping that this Friday we
> could get Kevin and possibly the developers of Snap Dialer to talk about
> their current license models and how they implemented payment systems
> and also maybe the developer of FOP to discuss if this was available to
> him and he was able to sell a 100 licenses or something like that a
> month would this provide an income stream to support further development
> etc.
>
> Does this make sense?
> Does anyone have any comments or would you like to be involved with
> Fridays call?
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Collins
> Cognation Pty Ltd
> dean at cognation.net
> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dean Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 7:53 AM
>> To: 'VOIP-Users-Conference at googlegroups.com'
>> Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'; Ast-biz
>>     
> (asterisk-
>   
>> biz at lists.digium.com)
>> Subject: RE: [VOIP-Users-Conference] Subject or Guest for Friday?
>>
>> We can talk about the third party application idea Cory and I
>>     
> discussed last week -
>   
>> sorry still haven't posted to the list yet as I've had a client in
>>     
> town for the last few day
>   
>> but should be able to do this today.
>> If Fop, Snap Dialer, Mexuar and or any other third party developer who
>>     
> has written
>   
>> commercial asterisk applications (preferably small low value eg $20
>>     
> etc) is interested
>   
>> in jumping on a call with me this Friday I can put together a series
>>     
> of questions to run
>   
>> the call with.
>> Maybe we can get Kevin from Digium to explain on the call how the g729
>>     
> license
>   
>> registration process works and turn the call into a working
>>     
> discussion.
>   
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dean Collins
>> Cognation Pty Ltd
>> dean at cognation.net
>> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
>> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
>>
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: VOIP-Users-Conference at googlegroups.com [mailto:VOIP-Users-
>>> Conference at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of randulo
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 7:27 AM
>>> To: VOIP Users Conference
>>> Subject: [VOIP-Users-Conference] Subject or Guest for Friday?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a guest or subject up their sleeve for this week? I
>>> have neither and I'm getting ready to move house so I don't have a
>>>       
> lot
>   
>>> of time to pursue. Any chance of getting a phone mfr or service
>>> provider on? Anyone out there want to take a crack at this? Present
>>> your product or service or open source contributions.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, TringMe apparently has an API available and are making
>>> it very easy to build AIR and Flash (or Flex) apps. This sounds very
>>> interesting for creating branded clients of various kinds. If you're
>>>       
> a
>   
>>> programmer in that world, I'd check it out. AIR looks to me like it
>>> has legs because of its cross-platform nature. I don't know how it
>>> works with linux or FreeBSD if at all. Does anyone here know?
>>>
>>> If no ideas are forthcoming, we can talk about my personal (VoIP)
>>> issues: we're moving and will have two offices, as now. The
>>>       
> difference
>   
>>> is, we can not leave the power on at the old office, so we'll be
>>>       
> using
>   
>>> a combination of hosted pbx and asterisk, probably with the AA50 at
>>> our new home.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions on any of this :)
>>>
>>> /r
>>>
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