[asterisk-users] Asterisk GUI

Troy Ayers asteriskfan at wcta.net
Wed Jun 20 16:04:57 CDT 2007


I would have been convinced if you had not top-posted!  heh


Rob Schall wrote:
> Tom,
>
> I disagree with your argument for a number of reasons. Each of these 
> reasons should be more than enough to convince you I'm correct and you 
> should do it my way and only my way.
>
> And for the record, VI and CLI.
>
> Rob
>
> Tom Rymes wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Tom Rymes wrote:
>>>     
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>   
>>>> How many times does it have to be said? Don't feed the trolls!
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> Tom...Who in your opinion is a troll?
>>>
>>>
>>> Senad
>>>     
>>
>> Well, technically, I was calling the original post a troll, not the  
>> original poster. More specifically, the usage of troll I am referring  
>> to resembles the fishing technique more than the mythological  
>> creature. Basically, a troll in this context is a post that someone  
>> makes simply for the purpose of starting a heated discussion on a  
>> very touchy subject. In other words, the original poster is  
>> "trolling" for people who will get all bent out of shape about their  
>> post and fire back a heated response.
>>
>> For example, a user could post a message to the list asking "I'm new  
>> to Linux and Asterisk. Should edit my dialplan by hand, use FreePBX,  
>> or buy a commercial solution?" Imagine the response as you tried to  
>> convince them to buy PBXWare, FreePBX users try to convince them that  
>> they should start out using FreePBX, and others go on about how hand  
>> coding a dialplan is the one-true-way® to learn Asterisk. Generally,  
>> the original poster is just looking to get everyone stirred up over  
>> nothing.
>>
>> In other words, Paul's original post of "GUI bad! CLI good!" was just  
>> the sort of post that is going to get folks fired up re-re-restarting  
>> the age-old discussion of which is better: CLI or GUI. Basically, it  
>> could be like posting any of the following:
>>
>> - Which is better: emacs or vi?
>> - Which linux distribution is the best?
>> - Which is better: Macs or Windows?
>>
>> All of these questions share the following:
>>
>> 1.) They have no right answer (macs are better for some, Windows for  
>> others, and linux for others still, not to mention OS/2, BSD, etc)
>> 2.) People on the various sides of the debate have extremely strong  
>> feelings on the matter
>> 3.) Nobody is likely to be convinced that the other side is right and  
>> that they are wrong.
>> 4.) They have all been discussed thousands of times before, and  
>> nothing new is likely to be said on the matter.
>> 5.) The only purpose served by the discussion, due to the reasons  
>> above, is to clutter up the mailing list.
>> 6.) Any discussion thread regarding these sorts of topics is best  
>> avoided.
>>
>> For a more thorough description of an internet troll, see the  
>> following wikipedia article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_% 
>> 28internet%29
>>
>> In other words, if you see a post that is just going to result in a  
>> re-rehashing of the last rehash of a specific subject, just hit the  
>> delete key instead of clogging up the mailing list with yet another  
>> thread on whether a GUI or a CLI is better. (for example).
>>
>> In Paul's defense, it looked to me like his original post was simply  
>> a joke that was misunderstood. (I thought it was funny, anyway)
>>
>> I suppose I should take my own advice on this one, but sometimes I  
>> guess we all just can't resist. <grin>
>>
>> Tom
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