[asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers

Dovid B asteriskusers at dovid.net
Wed Dec 27 11:58:06 MST 2006


Embarased like when you were caught wuth your pants down ?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Bochter" <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers


> Peter
>
> // I'm done with this. I thought we were discussing VoIP provider scams?
>
> You are the one posting massages that are off the subject
> I took your replys " off the list. "
>
> Please keep your posts on the subject ( Thank You ) :-)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Al Bochter
> Bochter Services
> http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
>
>
>
> Peter Bowyer wrote:
>
>> Oh no, the game's up - Al's found my IP address. Wait - no he hasn't -
>> he's found an IP address that belongs to McAfee Security in Spain -
>> with whom I have no connection at all. (Hint: whois <ip address>)
>>
>> Those PI classes really paid off, Al. Supposing you had managed to
>> find out one of my IP addresses (which isn't really too hard, I have
>> NIC handles at ARIN and RIPE, and hold addresses on behalf of more
>> than one major organisation), what were you going to do with it?
>>
>> I'm done with this. I thought we were discussing VoIP provider scams?
>>
>> On 24/12/06, Al Bochter <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> This is off the list?
>>>
>>> it looks like ip: 62.189.112.129
>>> Country GB: Britain
>>>
>>> AM I close?
>>>
>>> Anyways This is off my point!
>>> And should not be posted to the list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Al Bochter
>>> Bochter Services
>>> http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Bowyer wrote:
>>>
>>> > This is getting funnier by the minute. Way to go, Al.
>>> >
>>> > On 24/12/06, C F <shmaltz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I Find It Funny, So I Decided To Let Others Laugh As Well
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >> From: Al Bochter <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com>
>>> >> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 14:01:06 -0500
>>> >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] The Good, Bad and Scam VoIP Providers
>>> >> To: shmaltz at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >> This is off the list
>>> >>
>>> >> C F,
>>> >>
>>> >> You are an ass Bret is a scammer you can take that to the bank from a
>>> >> PI. Sorry I never stated what I do for a living. Did I?
>>> >> I will be dealing with Bret. And 2007 is not going to be a good
>>> year for
>>> >> that scammer.
>>> >>
>>> >> So why are you hiding use a real email address. And a real name.
>>> >> Looks like you have an in with Bret "Master of Cybercrimes"
>>> >> May have to my homework on you to. What is you think?
>>> >>
>>> >> I really don't care if you if you trust me.
>>> >> Your reply is only a pop out trying to save your ass.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please stay on the POINT!
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Al Bochter
>>> >> Bochter Services
>>> >> http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> C F wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Al, Nobody Cares About Your Problems With Bret. Most People Here
>>> Know
>>> >> > And Trust Bret More Than They Do You. All You Have Done So Far
>>> Is Made
>>> >> > A Fool Out Of Yourself. At This Point All I Can Think Of Is That If
>>> >> > Bret Does Hold Some Of Your Money That It Is A Significant
>>> Amount And
>>> >> > He Wont Ever Give It To You. Move On And Dont Make A Bigger Fool
>>> Out
>>> >> > Of Yourself. Swallow Your Pride Its Not Fattening. For You I Can
>>> Say:
>>> >> > Temper Is What Gets You Into Trouble Pride Is What Keeps You There.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 12/24/06, Al Bochter <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> So you would deal with a criminal ?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Bret McDanel was *Convicted Of Cybercrimes
>>> >> >> *
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Best regards,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Al Bochter
>>> >> >> Bochter Services
>>> >> >> http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> (VoIP PBX) 1-563-773-6610 EXT: 250
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Peter Bowyer wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > On 23/12/06, Al Bochter <Al.Bochter at bochterservices.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> We have to put the SCAMMERS like trxtel.com out of business
>>> (That
>>> >> >> don't
>>> >> >> >> pay there users!!!!)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > You know, I'd deal with a professional like Bret a thousand
>>> times
>>> >> >> > before I considered dealing with a mom-and-pop lemonade stall
>>> like
>>> >> >> > you. And this kind of posting will only move you further down
>>> the
>>> >> >> > list.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
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